H2SO,SO,SO,SO What do I do?

Topic created by Wapopperbator
on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 18:06

Wapopperbator said on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 18:06...

I'm having trouble sourcing Dr. Wang's preferred acid at the purity that I want. I think I'll be able to do it eventually when I have my business entity created. Does anybody have any smart work arounds for getting 95%-98% without a lot of state and federal regulations slowing you down?

Dr. Wang said on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 19:44...

Rooto drain opener from Ace Hardware is ±95%, and a common and inexpensive source of relatively pure concentrated sulfuric acid for hobbyists. If desired, it can be further purified and concentrated simply by heating until it begins to emit clouds of (extremely hazardous) sulfur trioxide. If this is attempted, it should be done behind layers of PPE, taking care to prevent thermal shock to the glassware.
I dilute it here to 40% with shards of ice.

I'm very much looking forward to exchanging product.

I contacted Allied to inquire about 3-methylbutyl, even in custom bulk purchases, but they don't carry it anymore and were of no help. I just ordered a half liter from Poland in hopes it's of much higher purity than what I received from Ukraine. There are other more reliable local sources like Sigma at somewhat reasonable prices though.

I think I can probably get GC-MS done at a PSU lab for $50-100, and I'm gong to approach them when I'm done hydrolyzing a new batch.

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injecting fire and electricity directly into your jugular vein... Pegging the needle all the way past 11 and having sparks fly, every time...

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Dr. Wang said on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 20:03...

On the subject of nitrogen, I sometimes use R-152a air duster to displace air, but it's very water soluble and filled with bitterant.
However, CO2 and 134a are apparently very good substitutes for this application, and I may give them a try. I just don't want to sweep the most volatile fraction out of the apparatus with gas.

HFC-134a - Non-flammable and more chemically stable than HFC-152a.
CO2 - Can work, but can react with water to form carbonic acid (H2CO3), which might slightly contribute to acid buildup over time.
HFC-152a- Low Reactivity, Heavier than Air, Solubility in Alkyl Nitrites, Potential for Acid Formation If moisture and acidic byproducts (e.g., nitrous acid) are present

Wapopperbator said on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 at 22:40...

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I'm not sure about injecting fire and electricity into anybody's jugular.....you see, <<my product is not for human consumption and should be used in a well ventilated area>>.

That being said, I want my community to have trust and confidence in what they're buying. I'm going one step at a time. We'll temper the expectations of 11, and start with a reliable 8.2 and build from there.

Your encouragement is amazing. Thank you!

Dr. Wang said on Sun, 2 Mar 2025 at 01:57...

lol, YW.
VCR head cleaner it is then.

Prog said on Mon, 10 Mar 2025 at 05:20...

CSA 95% is available from a website that is focused on biofuel..... DudaDiesel.com no legal issues

Dr. Wang said on Mon, 10 Mar 2025 at 23:35...

That's a great point, Prog.
Duda doesn't have sodium nitrite, but I didn't even think about them for H2SO4. It's a bit more expensive, but it's a higher concentration, and Ace is only in limited geographic areas.