Bleach scent is isobutyl or isopropyl?
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Topic created by Anonymous
on Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 20:05
Anonymous said on Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 20:05...
I bought a bottle of rush that says isobutyl nitrite that has a very strong scent/smell of bleach on it. I was wondering if this is actually a characteristic of isobutyl or isopropyl. I've used other bottles that have similarly stated isobutyl, but I did notice slight yellow spots in the center of my vision right after using it.
This bottle is manufactured by AFAB Industrial Services Inc in PA, which was in litigation with PWD NV LLC for using their name and trademarks(If you go on the neverfakeit.com website and scroll all the way to the bottom you can see the information). I just want to be sure that I'm using isobutyl and not isopropyl to prevent eye damage.
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 16:42...
I make and use the stuff....BOTH isopropyl and isobutyl/butyl nitrites can cause the yellow dot side effect...as well as a whole bunch of other unpleasant side effects...especially when they contain impurities, the type that enhance unwanted effects.
Isopropyl nitrite may smell like magic marker....Isobutyl will smell like a sweet nail polish compound if pure enough. Butyl nitrite will give a room the scent of a deodorized locker room. Odors can be all over the map when they contain impurities.
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 16:45...
I should add...IPN can and often is....much more toxic than IBN...in that toxic effects happen sooner and last longer. But I wouldn't recommend butyl, isobutyl or isobutyl because I know first hand how awful the immediate and delayed side effects can be.
Another Anonymous said on Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 02:57...
I also got a bottle recently of JJ Platinum (Manufactured in Delaware) that smell a lot like bleach. Any idea about what it is?
Bman said on Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 19:58...
@nitritespecialist. What compound is the best then ? For minimal side effects. Especially eye damage. And where can it be purchased ?
Wenis said on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 at 02:57...
Yea u got a knock off i wuldnt use it. Ive done only isobutyl secbutyl tertbutyl amyl nd pentyl. Thts all i will do. Ide never risk propyl how can i fap if im blind ya kno? and no bottles ive got ever smelled like bleach. But everyone knos amyl is safer and less side effects. Amyls safest 4 sure. Look 2 my master reviews on where to buy. Ide switch to amyl 4 sure tho. Im considering only using amyl myself but i also like isobutyl bottles nd feeling it gives. But tbh if i culd only chose 1 it wuld be amyl . and can be just as strong 2 if u get the right bottles nd its longer acting. Isoamyl can b good nd strong 2. If u hav questions message me back. -Wenis
Ozark Intellectual said on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 at 13:47...
Look 2 my master reviews
The Professor said on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 at 21:46...
Any type of nitrite can smell very alkaline (like ammonia or bleach). It depends on how its neutralized.
acid can be be neutralized by addition of an alkaline substance
sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)
sodium carbonate (washing soda)
The problem comes when un-skilled makers like Ken (nitritespecialist et al) try to neutralize with SEVERAL washes, particularly if using a highly alkaline product (like washing soda). rather than neutralizing more acid, each wash raises the alkalinity of the popper.
High alkalinity destroys the ester as quickly as high acidity does; it also messes with the aroma.
one wash with a low alkalinity agent like baking soda will neutralize all the aid from making, without needlessly raising the overall alkalinity into the destructive zone.
Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 14:48...
@Wenis....I have been saying for years that N amyl nitrite is the safest and least toxic popper....and that's what makes it the legendary BEST popper. Others have tried to push back by saying amyl is far too weak to be of any use. But that's a lie.