Everest premium or AMYL titanium?
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Topic created by godo99
on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 at 12:10
godo99 said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 at 12:10...
Has anyone on here tried both of these I'm wondering which to order The Everest premium is only a 15ml bottle and the AMYL titanium is a 24ml bottle and cheaper too.
Which do you think would be the best?
Anonymous said on Wed, 16 Nov 2022 at 23:29...
I tried the blue lid Everest Premium one time.....it was basically degraded isopentyl nitrite. It stunk...had some foul camphorous odor and effects were weak....could barely make myself take a whiff due to the bad odor.
Inflatable Donald said on Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 18:31...
Howdy again Anomy! did you vote? i reads some of other postings....y'all seem to be bad-mouthing everyone and everything! and oft times say things are "camphorous" what is that word, sir?
Rozac said on Fri, 18 Nov 2022 at 01:39...
Any poppers in goa?
The Professor said on Fri, 18 Nov 2022 at 01:43...
anon (aka Ken Jones, aka Nitritespecialist aka john mulligan aka nitrite expert aka brewmeister aka a hundred other offensive names), is an ignorant wanna be maker that has been failing for 12 yrs, yet feels compelled to tell other people what to do and how.
he finally tried OTC stuff a while back, and was over-the-moon about jungle juice's Hexyl crap. He also tried one of the Everest variants and labelled it 'offensively camphorous'.
He'll tell you that normal pentanol is the ONLY type of popper worth inhaling, even though the perscription stuff was ALWAYS a mixture of pentanol isomers.In his mind, the IsoPentyl stuff is inferior, and quickly degrades into the aforementioned 'foul camphor'
excepting that his ideas are wrong and his viscious attacks are fallacious.
And yes, I_D, I did vote, thanks for asking
Chubbybear said on Wed, 23 Nov 2022 at 04:22...
I have tried both and I much prefer the AMYL titanium and the rush is strong. No headaches. As a matter of fact they are my new fav. Just had 4 more bottles delivered today!
Enema Perfection said on Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 04:55...
@Professor: You know the easiest way to tell this retard from anyone else? He keeps talking about camphor despite having never encountered camphor in his entire life. I am amazed that he hasn't died of AIDS. My gut tells me that he is a bot or a troll. Maybe a state actor trying to cause cancer.
Inflatable Donald said on Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 11:01...
I discover that camphor was used in olden daze against bubonic plaque, and today can be used for fumigating against an infestation of fleas. Moth balls are made from the camphor. i have an old rabbit skin coat that is full of fleas, so helpful info.
Check out Newsmax, guys!
Anonymous said on Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 18:35...
I dunno....I made 3 brews of incredible isopropyl nitrite lately and I'm stunned at how powerful and fun it is....no noticeable off odors or nasty side effects either. Just a tiny whiff takes you on a joyful energetic ride of bliss.
So easy to make too.....grab a bottle of Walmart's 70% isopropyl alcohol, some sodium nitrite from CC, some acid from Menards and that's all you need. A mag stirrer might help, but is not necessary if willing to stir by hand. You will see no brown smoke, no green, no blue.....you will just see white salt form and a yellow layer on top. Wash and dry that yellow layer and you got liquid Gold. 10mls only last a day or two of use...NP, IPA is cheap from Walmart.
Anonymous said on Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 18:39...
I forewarn everyone who tries to make isopropyl or butyl nitrite....if you don't mix right...with proper ratios, they will be toxic garbage. Also, when using butanol, it has to be very pure, and factory sealed straight from the factory...no middle men who pour it off into different containers.
The isopropyl is easy to get and comes with Expiration dates. Use warmer temps...don't add any water and you will force that puppy to make a very potent, low toxicity popper.
Rosa Klebb said on Sat, 26 Nov 2022 at 18:36...
Don't do what this guy is saying! Act with sense and maturity; say NO to "Bathtub Bill"
Anonymous said on Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 07:21...
From Sciencemadness Wiki
Isopropyl nitrite separatory funnel by Doug's Lab.png
Freshly prepared isopropyl nitrite
Isopropyl alcohol nitrite
Nitrous acid, isopropyl ester
Molar mass 89.09 g/mol
Appearance Straw yellow liquid
Density 0.8684 g/cm3
Melting point −132 °C (−206 °F; 141 K) 
Boiling point 40 °C (104 °F; 313 K)
Solubility in water
Solubility Miscible with acetone, diethyl ether, ethanol
Safety data sheet Sigma-Aldrich
Flash point -29 °C (-20.2 °F; 244 K)
Lethal dose or concentration (LD, LC):
LD50 (Median dose)
300 mg/kg (mouse, oral)
3,200 mg/kg (rabbit, oral)
980 mg/kg (rat, oral)
Except where otherwise noted, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C [77 °F], 100 kPa).
Isopropyl nitrite is a highly flammable organic ester. It has the general formula (CH3)2CHONO.
6.1 Relevant Sciencemadness threads
Isopropyl nitrite reacts with hydrazine hydrate and sodium hydroxide to form sodium azide.
Isopropyl nitrite is straw yellow color and has a sweet, pleasant smell. It is immiscible and less dense than water. Isopropyl nitrite has a very high vapor pressure and a low boiling point, although it will decompose on boiling to produce nitrogen oxides and isopropanol. A low flash point combined with the high vapor pressure means it is very easy to ignite.
Isopropyl nitrite was available as the main active ingredient in some types of "poppers" (along with amyl nitrite), but it's harder to get hold of in recent years. In some countries, the sale of amyl nitrites may be be restricted or illegal.
It's better made in a home lab setting.
Concentrated hydrochloric acid is slowly dripped onto sodium nitrite suspended in isopropanol, generating nitrous acid which reacts with the alcohol. The concentration of isopropanol should be less than 100% to ensure the solution does not get too acidic (which will rapidly decompose the ester) and that some of the precipitate byproducts dissolve. Diluted sulfuric acid can also be used but this will result in a larger amount of precipitate due to sodium sulfate's lower solubility compared to sodium chloride.
Every reagent should be as cold as possible to limit decomposition to nitrogen oxides. An ice bath may be needed.
To limit exposure to this compound, the reaction is often conducted in a separatory funnel, which can be easily closed to limit vapors, and is also a convenient way of removing the aqueous layer.
Make sodium azide
Antidote for hydrogen sulfide and cyanide poisonings
As well as being highly flammable, being an organic nitrite it promotes vasodilation in the body, pushing more blood to the brain. Hence breathing fumes of isopropyl nitrite can have some mild strange side effects that mostly end up in a headache. Proper ventilation is required when using this compound.
In case of nitrite poisoning, small dosages of methylene blue are recommended (0.1 ml of 1% solution per kilogram of patient's weight, intravenously). Not to be confused with large dosages, which are toxic in the same way nitrites are, and are used to treat poisoning with blood agents like cyanides, carbon monoxide and hydrogen sulfide (isopropyl nitrite itself can work as an antidote in these cases).
Storage is best done in a cold place such as a fridge or freezer, but care must be taken to prevent as the vapors travel quickly and can easily find a source of ignition.
If care is taken to make sure the ester does not contain any acid before storage, it will not quickly decompose and may be stored cold for many months. Anhydrous calcium chloride is often added to keep the compound dry, as prolonged exposure to water may cause hydrolysis.
Acid hydrolysis of the compound destroys it quickly, with the evolution of nitrogen oxides. It is recommended to either burn it or simply let it evaporate over pouring it down a sink, as its solvent properties may adversely affect a plumbing system.
R. F. Grant and D. W. Davidson, J. Chem. Phys. 33, 1713 (1960), Dielectric Study of Some Liquid Alkyl Nitrites
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Isopropyl nitrite synthesis
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Rosa Klebb said on Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 12:30...
Bill, you forgot to say that isopropyl sucks! and is the formula has been linked to cases of ocular unpleasantness in some with preexisting "old folks" ailments. Therefore, you are telling people to brew up this garbage in their bath, dumb in itself for anyone without proper knowledge, and the result is the cheapo-nasty-popper that popped up in the United Kingdom following the enforcement of The Medicines Act, and the disappearance of the much-loved, and safe, amyl nitrite.
As I said earlier, (thanks Nancy!).....JUST SAY NO....to Bathtub Bill.
Anonymous said on Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 15:38...
Lots of stuff gets negative PR. Without knowing all the pertinent facts, negative PR is meaningless. It's basically propaganda.
Anonymous said on Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 19:34...
Anectodal evidence today the quality/condition of the alcohol has GOT TO BE as pure as pure gets during the reaction. I got a series of so-so isopropyl nitrite from my now half empty bottle of IPA. When I switched to a brand new bottle of IPA, I immediately got the expected crazy fun effects.
Here's how you can tell: when the popper is good, the heart beat can be felt strongly against the eardrum and it remains loud in the eardrum until its effects have worn off completely. When this occurs, maximum physiological pleasure will be felt. A lesser brew will increase heart rate but it will feel much less pronounced(not banging against eardrum) and there will be ZERO physiological pleasure. There will be uncomfortable warming of the body along with the weaker heart beat....and zero euphoria. There will be no desire to take another hit.
The Professor said on Sun, 27 Nov 2022 at 23:49...
you're right on point with anon's nonsense. Don't be frustrated by his ignorant refusal to accept reality, but be encouraged that, despite his nagging presence over the last 12 years, he has had NOBODY follow his advice (which vacillates between obnoxious ad hominem attacks, and dangerously ignorant claims.
Good thing too; I don't think anyone would like to become chemically castrated, which is the direction his preps are going.
I once suggested to him that chemistry has changed considerably since the likes of William Noyes, and he responded that 'nothing has changed' in his typical ignorant ignorance (yes, he's doubling up)
take, for example, his latest claim that he has somehow tamed isopropyl nitrite by using consolidated chemical's Sodium Nitrite (CC doesn't sell NaNO2) and calcium chloride to somehow 'suck up' unreacted alcohol.
IN the first instance, it's no surprise that he's lying about the powder; ALL if his self can be described as either a blatant lie or a misdirection with a heaping dose of willful ignorance.
In the second instance, Noyes himself had doubts as to whether an alcohol can be dried with Calcium Chloride
William Noyes said
Beilstein's "handbook of organic chemistry" states that absolute alcohol is prepared on a large scale by the use of calcium chloride, but I have failed to find details anywhere in literature.
The statement is also made that alcohol combines with calcium chloride and that a high temperature is required to expel the remaining alcohol from the compound formed"
Noyes says it's possible at 100 degrees Celsius, disproving this clown's claim that calcium chloride sucks up alcohol.
He's poisoning himself, sure, but luckily nobody else is following his life threatening methods