Profound amyl anal effects...for bottoms.
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Topic created by BrewMeister...
on Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 22:59
BrewMeister... said on Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 22:59...
I think I have finally cracked the mystery about poppers and any special anal effects they may or may not have. It's been a long search for me. I felt some sign of special rectal/anal effects when Joe Miller still was at the helm, up until 2010ish. But I never felt it with any OTC poppers since then. Sometimes, I felt something special with home brew but not often enough to call it a hallmark sign of the real deal.
Awhile back, someone wrote me a long email telling me how he used to buy poppers that would give him a reliable anal orgasm in exactly 25 minutes via his fuck machine. Apparently, after Joe died, he could no longer get poppers that did that. Something was missing as he put it.
Fast forward to today and I've made two successive brews of normal amyl nitrite using the William Noyes method and I have experienced consistent and profound anal effects with these two brews.
The effect comes on slowly.....within 5 minutes perhaps of successive hits. And of course you have to be riding one. But, what happens is there is intense pleasure, whereby the climax muscles and perhaps prostate/seminal vesicles are trying hard to contract and eject fluid, but the popper is relaxing other muscles to fight the ejection. It's a massively pleasurable state of tension. But it's very real. Precum oozes a lot. And I managed to have what I would call an anal orgasm...extreme tension, bodily freeze up....and moans and groans.
BrewMeister... said on Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 23:07...
I don't know if the other nitrites can deliver these effects. I am only reporting on N-amyl nitrite, because that's what I made. And I specifically used battery acid, Duda SN, and TCI one pentanol to make this.
Popperasswipe said on Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 23:23...
I thought the Professor debunked the William Noyes method, especially the part where he dared to use sulfuric acid??? Wasn't William Noyes a real published, peer reviewed chemist from the 1930s?
The Professor said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 00:11...
It's strange that in the OTHER topic, Ken (brewmeister) simultaneously accuses me of COPYING Noyes AND of debunking Noyes' method.
Noyes' method is appropriate for the 1930s, production methods and chemistry in general have advanced exponentially since then.
Again Ken is just proving that he is comfortable lying to us, and accusing us of BOTH sides of an argument just to try to make me look bad
DragQueenSally said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:25...
Nope.....the Professor totally misquoted the other commenter.
That person stated that the Professor used Noyes as his source material, copying some of it, while replacing the type of acid used, simply because HCl is easier to stir with a mag stirrer.
The Professor has literally debunked every patent, every other formula and every other organic chemist that ever lived. He adds no new information except the same WikiLinks that he created 10 years ago after ONLY 6 months of testing. He sent samples of his concoctions out to people and if they said the samples were OK, he assumed his product was A OK, the holy grail of poppers....I think not!!!
PopperExpert said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:28...
@Drag....I am pretty sure Noyes had access to HCl back in the 1930s. He could have used it if he thought it would have worked better. But obviously, he chose sulfuric because of its advantages when making esters.
MyAssJustExploded!!! said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:33...
@Popper.....But the Professor said that was 90 years ago and he's made so many important discoveries since then. He's vastly improved methods of making alkyl nitrites. I am amazed he hasn't published his findings in a a chemistry journal somewhere.
Anonymous said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:39...
Oh yes....the Professor vastly improved, exponentially, the Noyes method. He substituted "inferior" HCl for sulfuric acid. Wow...huge improvement...HUGE discovery.
Oh...and don't forget the magical sieves he discovered to suck up all those toxic Chlorine impurities and all that excess water that got in the way.
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:41...
Actually, the Professor's real discovery is that it takes 5 seconds per drop of acid to keep the pot cool enough to not blow it to smithereens!!!
MyShitStinksBad!!! said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:43...
Wait a sec......I think his biggest discovery is the gas mask method of popper inhalation bliss.
Who doesn't cherish the thought of donning a gas mask each and every time they engage in sex with a partner.
The Professor said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:45...
You keep banging the same chicken over and over Ken.
I have never said that every chemistry prior to me is wrong; that's another straw man fallacy you've latched onto. I didn't misquote you, and the complaint that I don't include references is proveably a lie; I've repeatedly posted the truth from universities across the world.
This week you say you've "come full circle", but you are just chasing your own tail.
It doesn't matter if you don't remember, anyone that cares can see posts from years ago, where you fought back and forth with yourself about HCL vs Sulfuric.
You seem to think they let to your success works somehow be to discredit me; you only provide more evidence as to your instability and ignorance.
Have at it Ken. You continue to send me makers our way. You are (I should say 'your madness is') the best advertiser for getting interested makers connected with true laboratory techniques and resources that save them time, money and help them protect their health while making and using Alkyl nitrites that outperform.
Thanks for showing them the alternative to you.
MyGappingHole!!! said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:45...
Sound good to me....I don't mind all manner of contraptions when it comes to sex. Heck...count me in.....break out the big toys and all....let's get the tubes, the masks, the filters, the goggles...all manner of whatnot.
Anonymous said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:49...
LOL....and yet the Professor keeps attacking "Ken" for simply following the Noyes method and describing his results!!!
What the heck is he so afraid of.....
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:50...
He's afraid his method really isn't the cat's meow. That it does have some pitfalls that using sulfuric acid doesn't.
BrewMeister... said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:55...
After using HCl over the years, I have come to believe it's not the ideal acid. Even when some brews seem OK at first, they typically do not age well. After 3 days, they develop off, bitter odors, regardless of how many sieves are added, regardless of how much washing is done, regardless of anything. They also become much weaker.
The Noyes method I just copied has delivered great effects, mild odors that stay mild and good and strong effects, though delayed.
Hello....all that's different is the acid.
MakersBrew... said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:57...
Yeah, but the Professor has been beating the same drum forever....that HCl is crucial to his WikiLinks formula and his stirring methods just won't cut through sodium sulfate crystals.
OrganicChemist... said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 16:59...
@Makers....oh yes....the Professor forgets that sulfuric acid dehydrates...or helps suck up the excess water that forms as the ester is being made. This helps push the reaction towards the right, or toward the popper yield.
Plus....sulfuric acid doesn't off gas and fill the room and your lungs. HCl is basically chlorine gas in water. That's not good to breathe.
Popperasswipe said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 17:02...
OMG...thanks OrganicChemist...I didn't know that. I've smell muriatic acid before and it is very caustic to breathe and it corrodes metal easily, just the fumes in the room. Did that to my vanity hardware.
The Professor said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 17:21...
And everybody that is really Ken having a melt down completely forgets that they've just disproven the 'desiccant' thing had any value, and recommended NOT to starve the reaction of it's medium (which is all his 'water is bad' theory proved, again.
Again they complain about both sides of an issue just to attack.
For anyone else still in this thread that isn't Ken (not likely but no skin off my nose (you're not eating as much of my time as you think Ken, and you've resorted to acting like an inconsiderate jackass to do it) Sulfuric acid is very desiccating, yes.
An extremely acidic compound, especially one that's so desiccating, is Much more dangerous to handle them HCL (also a strong acid, but not quite as desiccating.
Exposing the alcohol to such a strong acid will scorch the alcohol if not cared for properly, which ruins the batch.
Using such a desiccating acid removes water from the reaction, yes, but doing so DOESN'T force the reaction to completion.
water is the medium in which the reaction is happening. Water is not a reactant in this case, it is a reagent. Water must be there for want dissociation of ions and this entire operation is an ion swap.
The choice here is continue to listen to Ken's madness or join the PopperMakers subreddit and leave Ken's crazy in the rear view mirror
OrganicChemist... said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 19:23...
Water forms as a by product of the alkyl nitrite reaction. But the more water there is in the pot, the more the ester formation process is inhibited. It's just basic organic chemistry. So....sulfuric acid, which is always diluted, helps to combine with some of that excess water that keeps forming, which helps the ester formation process.
BrewMeister... said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 19:29...
Once again.....William A. Noyes, a prize winning and published chemist, holding a doctoral degree in chemistry, used sulfuric acid to make alkyl nitrites in his easy to find formula online. If he had seen any advantage to using HCl, he would have. BUT, instead he said in his side notes, that a very strong stirrer had to be used in order to adequately stir the formation of more and more sodium sulfate crystals. It costs more for such a stirring device. A simple mag stirrer is a lot cheaper. Hence, people are cutting corners due to expense and ease of operation. Quality is no longer important.
The Professor said on Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 20:42...
For a bit of context for any new readers (not likely at this point, there's not that much traffic here and It's ALL been Ken today).
You'll probably remember this tidbit (to YOU from DoubloeScorpio's Chemist, back before you wer banned on Reddit's popperpigs
You start with a LIE (of course) trying to get attention)
Heavy user (daily)4 years ago
Reason I post on here....
I've been posting my experiences with making and using poppers for 8 years. My motives have nothing to do with wanting to sell something, push my formula, persuade others to make or use poppers, pretend to be a nitrite compound chemistry expert or anything not related solely to my personal journey of making and using poppers.
All my popper opinions are subjective to change depending on my experiences. I am not "inflexible". At no time have I claimed to be the final or best authority regarding poppers. I have always tried to give a "balanced" view of poppers, meaning I fully admit there are pros and cons to making and using them."
which this forum will remember, Ken consistently posts this gem when called out on something.
But there's more.......same topic
4 yr. ago
This is a strange post. It is titled 'Reason I post on here' but then proceeds to list various things OP does not do. Nowhere is there even a single explanation as to 'why OP posts here'.
So readers hqad your number YEARS ago; you just pressed on with annoying everyone, and then DoubleScorpio weighed in
4 yr. ago
edited 4 yr. ago
I've been critical of you, and it's because I disagree with what you've said here. I think the way you write about your results and theories does make it sound like you think you are an expert.
Furthermore, after reading a lot of the popperplace forum posts, its even more clear that your experiences are not typical of the average person trying to make their own poppers. Almost every the posts I've read from "amateur popper chemists" have no issues getting consistent results.
You've gone on to blame everything (the Sodium nitrite, the alcohol, the acid) but yourself for the problems. Either there's something fundamentally flawed with your method, or there's something wrong with your judgement about what's good and what's bad.
There are plenty of people here who have posted lots of good information. If you take their advice, you really shouldn't have any problems.
Banned from Reddit, abandoned PoppersPlace when you weren't getting enough attention, and NOW punishing this forum with whatever madness your annoying lies can muster
BrewMeister... said on Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 09:10...
Made a third brew following Noyes closely. This time I washed with a mag stir bar and the brew is PERFECT!!! Still amazing, AMAZING ass effects. It's totally pleasurable/orgasmic and the odor is very VERY neutral, mild, slightly sweet.
So....Noyes works perfectly and sulfuric acid is the acid of choice for both odor, and optimum anal effects. There should NEVER be any need to add a ton of sieves to suck up all the impurities that arise when HCl is used. I only used a few beads and a little Potassium Carbonate and this straight chained, normal amyl nitrite is EXACTLY what I've been searching for for 12 years.
BrewMeister... said on Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 09:14...
I have come full circle. I started with Noyes and sulfuric acid, but others convinced me to switch to HCl and that just made it all worse.
Now that I am far more experienced at making poppers, I realize my fundamental flaw was not following Noyes closely enough. He specifically says to use a strong MIXER to mix the pot. I did not. There were times I got a decent product, but I was never sure if it was "right" or not as I had no known standard. Plus I used isobutyl alcohol, which I never do now. It has a stronger odor, more apt to give toxic effects...so there's no reason to use it.
The Professor said on Fri, 15 Jul 2022 at 18:56...
you still don't have a known standard Ken, and now you are encouraging others to pollute themselves, their environment and their neighbors by adding phosphates, lye and other poisons into their water supply