Just bought my first popers
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Topic created by FrankC
on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 20:51
FrankC said on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 20:51...
Hey I just bought some poppers and waiting on them to arrive. I tried them recently for the first time but I forgot to ask her what they were.
So I ordered some off poppersupershop.com and then I discovered this site and I'm concerned about isopropyl nitrite now... Any advice on if I should take them or how to do it safely is greatly appreciated
Billy said on Tue, 5 Apr 2022 at 10:46...
Chuck 'em in the bin and buy some isobutyl, butyl, n-butyl, or amyl instead. American vendors sell it like GoldenCockPoppers or Artisanal Cleaners. They post to UK.
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 15:11...
All poppers, especially isopropyl nitrite and the butyl group can give immediate terrible side effects....like black circles, drunkenness, low blood pressure that keeps going lower, pins and needles on the nose, yellow stains, stinging of the skin, and the dreaded BLACK OUT trance effect when you can't sense anything good or bad.
ALL due to impurities. BAD product.
kens-anus said on Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 16:28...
It's not those pesky (and imaginary) impurities you keep going on about.
Bad product, yes, but not due to impurities.
Not for nothing, but why do you always start by lying to a newbie to this forum??
Pure IPN is way too reactive, even more reactive than the active ingredient in poppers, nitric oxide.
Nitric oxide gives the smooth muscle loosening effects. Nitric oxide is also used by your eyes in a response to light.
Less volatile poppers like amyl and butyl are about 75 to 85% reactive. Blood vessels dilate (which lowers blood pressure) and heart rate increases to maintain blood flow. It's a balancing act; making use of the body's natural accommodation mechanism.
Now, take isopropyl based poppers at about 110% reactivity. These poppers not only throw off the balance, but they cause visual disturbances that may become permanent and usually last for several months.
The 'scorched earth' reactivity leads to dangerously low blood pressure, dangerously high pulse rate and cameos potentially permanent damage to the eye.
Nothing to do with impurities.
I'm fact, a less pure isopropyl nitrite (like the kind you've been making lately) isn't as dangerous.
The way you've described how you make IPN without symptoms guarantees incomplete conversation of the alcohol to a popper. The popper will no longer be over the top in reactivity. Before I learned how to control the reaction (unless you get to this point, you'll always have variability because it's like trying to pick up a shell that is rumbling in the foam after a crashed wave; chaos), I explored n- propyl (a bit less reactive than isopropyl).
While fumbling around in the surf, (the extremely active reaction pot at above zero temperatures), the reactions tested much lower in purity, and the effects were not as strong as the hype.
After I attained true reaction control, the pretty went way up as did the effects.
The effects were so sudden and strong that, after doing a test hour in the bathroom, I walked back toward the bed, and it hit me so suddenly that I thought I would pass out.
Anything that's more reactive than the active ingredient is now trying to kill you.
(Unless you make it so poorly that the alcohol isn't completely converted)
kens-anus said on Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 16:31...
Test hour should be test hit
Frank said on Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 22:36...
Cheers for the replies everyone...damn I'm thinking I might not bother with them cause I like my vision lol. Everything was fine the time I tried them but after hearing all this is be reluctant to try them again if they can go that bad that quick....but obviously you guys all do them so the French ones must be the way to go. Cheers