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Topic created by 666
on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 11:45

666 said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 11:45...

Hello, everyone, i used poppers in three episodes. February 2021 Rush (Isopropyl), September 2021 Amsterdam (Pentyl) and January 2022 Amsterdam. In September I had the feeling of shortness of breath for the first time, there was also slight depression, anxiety and I knew it was from poppers. I started to live healthier, exercise more and eat healthily. I felt great again. The pneumologist blames the shortness of breath on stress. An X-ray and lung function test were ok. In January this year I bought a new bottle of Amsterdam black label. It was fresh but cold out of the car, took 6 to 7 hits, not overdone. The next day I had shortness of breath, and a day later burning in my lungs.. I had received an inhaled cortisone in September when i get the first problems, so I used it, nothing happened. I went to the doctor again, said I had a stronger burning in my lungs and i am concerned, he gave me prednisone and I should go to the hospital for an examination, another lung test, everything ok, this time a CT, everything ok, blood ok. It's been almost 5 weeks now and my condition is fluctuating, most of the time I have heavy breathing, my lungs are tight. Sometimes the burning comes back, at the moment there is a slight burning and the breathing feels strange. Slowly I'm worried. It wasn't that bad the first time, it sort of went away, this time it's there all the time. Hours turn into days and weeks and I'm waiting for things to get better. I read about exogenous alveolitis, about bronchitis obliterans, that would be horrible, NO2 are often responsible, i mean nitrogen dioxide, but from 6 normal hits? Maybe the stuff wasn't clean and had too much acid, maybe nitric acid built up on the mucous membranes and the epithelium is injured or irritated, nobody can tell me anything, all tests are ok. I have kids and responsibilities, took it for fun, it was stupid. I regret it, never thought I'd have to deal with this for so long. I hope it's "just" an allergic reaction that goes away. I believe in my body and try to stay positive but it's hard. Man that stuff is the devil for me and not as harmless as you always think. I will never take it again. It's definitely up to the poppers, that's for sure. Anyone have similar experience? Maybe it takes time.. i try to stay calm but its so hard, cant make sport or i have concerns about my lung or the reaction. The family life is exhausting in that status. I want my life back! I pray that I get well and don't have to life with a bad lung. Regards

FingerBob said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 12:28...

"The pneumologist blames the shortness of breath on stress" ....

1/ i try to stay calm

2/ The family life is exhausting

3/ my lungs are tight.

"took 6 to 7 hits, not overdone"

overdone, man! and volatile nitrites can agitate an existing condition, not cause it. You are a smoker, have high cholesterol? with stress as a co-factor.

Anonymous said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 12:55...

I used to smoke but haven't for a few years, I'm 35 and I think it has less to do with it. I often read that some here have been consuming poppers for 20 or 30 years, sometimes for hours all night, I took maybe 6 normal hits over maybe 1 or 2 hours, I think that's rather normal or little here among the users, at least it was probably too much for me. I don't have high cholesterol, and no other stress either.

666 said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 12:56...

"anonymous" is me "666" forgot the nick.

FingerBob said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 16:51...

How many cigarettes per day and for how many years, 666?

666 said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 17:47...

I think 6 years with more breaks, sometimes 2 or 3 cigarettes somethings a pack. Never had any problems with my lungs, I'm really fit, I don't have any allergies. I think that the cigarettes in the past are not the Problem that i habe now.

By the way, when I said family stress.. , I simply meant the difficulties of surviving everyday life with these lungs, it felt like shit i swaer. I've never had a problem with it before, and by staying calm I mean, not worrying too much about my health, what is difficult because i feel it by every breath i take. Of course it can be functional, one time it was hard to breath the next day it was ok but the burning starting.. At the moment is it both but not so intense like the first days. So. What, the second day burn that lasted a few days after i use the poppers is not from excitement or stress, I think it was a clear lung reaction to the Pentyl, I still suspect it wasn't pure enough, it smelled a little softer than the last of same brand and didn't seem as strong. I've been taking beclometasone inhalations morning and evening for 2 weeks now, but it doesn't help so mouch. Yesterday I fell asleep in front of the TV, woke up around 11pm and my lungs feel like rubber, no plan why. I don't understand what's going on. The doctors can only do x-rays and tests, if nothing can be found they don't know anything. Nobody is familiar with nitrite solutions or their consequences. You can read enough on the net. But enough horror stories. I just hope that my lungs aren't broken and that it will pass. Others have less problems, but I don't, as good as poppers are by the feeling, it's just not for me. I don't want to badmouth poppers, but you have to say clearly what it's like, the batches are made by the liter, nobody checks the quality, nobody can tell you exactly what's in it. So be careful, I hope it's not too late for this insight.

Anonymous said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 18:07...

Where did you buy your poppers from? Just in case it was indeed a bad batch so everyone can try to avoid it?

666 said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 18:51...

It was from tomrockets shop its the same shop like hotcandy shop i think because the reviews are the same, have buy it beginning of January and i regretted it for 5 weeks now.

But it doesnt matter, you can always get a fucked up batch, the FDA or other institutions nobody controll that shit. The formula has long since changed and apparently has nothing to do with the old poppers you keep reading about. It's Russian roulette

Anonymous said on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 21:52...

Bad poppers will and can make your lungs and airways inflamed. Good poppers are like hits of adrenaline...fun....quick ass relaxers and just fun/orgy time in a bottle. If it doesn't increase the mood, it's too weak, degraded or too impure.

FingerBob said on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 09:54...

I think 6 years

your smoking has damaged your lungs. Poppers, and many other everyday things, will agitate your airwaves. This is the root cause of the issue. It has nothing do to with batch quality, formula, the issue here is: your past smoking habit. You personally should avoid poppers, and be aware of any environmental factors at home, or in the workplace, that might impact you personally. Good luck. I assume you have been tested for COVID??

Anonymous said on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 13:11...

I've never smoked and BAD poppers do irritate the airways. There are acids and nitrogen dioxide and a host of other impurities like pyridine that could be present and will irritate the airways.

JoshVR said on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 21:21...

Hey Man, check out my website

https://thedangersofpoppers.com/lung-issues/

However as the gay community in protection of their drug will say

ITS ANXIETY ITS NOT POPPERS ITS YOU
POPPERS ARENT BAD FOR YOU.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - THESE MANUFACTURERS DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY PUT IN THE BOTTLE OTHERWISE PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE FUCKING THEIR EYES UP.

Contact me through the website if you want 666. I understand you would be pretty scared at the moment and Might need someone to talk to

666 said on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 09:29...

hey josh, I think what you say is absolutely correct. Thanks. In the end, everyone has to know what they are doing, but poppers have "become" dangerous. I'm pretty sure my poppers had impure nitrite, maybe stray and too much acid. The problem is that there is no remedy that just helps you. I have a doctor who takes it seriously and read up on poppers. Not in the hospital and my pneumologist has no idea about it either and doesn't give the impression of being interested, they think it's stupid to take something like that and they let you feel it. You feel left alone, I can't even fucking work in my condition, how sick is that, from 6 puffs! First of all, thanks to everyone who reads this far and maybe starts to think. And to all those who think it has something to do with smoking, forget it, don't talk it nice, my lungs are medically completely regenerated from smoking, at some point a bottle will come that is bad and evil will awaken! I. don't wish it on anyone! 6 moves! Which I've regretted for 5 weeks! Check out their page "thedangersofpoppers.com" These aren't fairy tales... @Josh, i will contact you on your site.

Anonymous said on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 18:59...

hahahaha....<raises one eyebrow> ;-)

Yawn said on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 02:10...

Ugh will you people fuck off with your propaganda? Nobody gives a fuck it's like any drug, buyer beware, use at own risk etc. Every pro popper site ends up with you people pushing your fear porn. Yes one in a million will have a bad reaction, just like any drug. Enough already

666 said on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 15:57...

Listen yawn, this forum is for everything related to poppers and not just for you, fanboy, understood? I've had enough experience with other things, none of them as disgusting as this pure dirty chemistry, that's my opinion and my experience. You can do what you want or do I forbid you? There are enough people who have serious problems with this stuff, but you don't hear about it. You're just one of the fanboys, you probably have your own popper site and you're offended. Why can't you get other drugs legally on the internet. Do you think it says vhs cleaner or leather cleaner on it, you dreamer? If you don't like what I write, shit your little brain away so you zero. Even from coke, amphetamines and whatever else is common you don't get such long term and severe side effects when you get hit. So just hit it up, no one forbids you. whistle

https://thedangersofpoppers.com

JoshVR said on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 22:17...

Hi Yawn.

Thanks for you reply.
If you check the lung section on that website, I think it's hard for you to think for a second that it's only a few people that are becoming affected by using poppers - while manufacturers are protected by the gay community they are harming.
Every week I'm having people contact me with issues. So if your aware of the side effects and the risk associated with such - there are plenty of pepole who have no idea. That is what I am trying to do - present people with the information. Most will scoff, potentially the old community however if people have read this information and they still want to do it, nothing can stop them.

Stop minimising solvent abuse.

Anonymous said on Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 23:27...

where are you from 666?

666 said on Sat, 26 Feb 2022 at 07:19...

I come from central europe

PopperExpert said on Sun, 27 Feb 2022 at 16:14...

I make my own amyl poppers.....use them fairly often...short sessions mostly. I don't smoke...never have. I am older. I have been doing 1 to 2 hours of cardio very single day for the last 2 months and haven't noticed any breathing problems. It matters what's in the bottle.

WHAT A LOAD said on Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 02:13...

i suspect that 666 and JoshVR are the same person.

6-7 hits causing problems 5 months later? Yeah. Sure. I've been using poppers since 1980 and have never heard of anything at all like this. fear porn is right.

666 said on Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 16:28...

I am not Josh my friend, trust me. And yes, 6 hits and problems with my lung for 6 weeks know! Not month, and believe me also.

The problem with poppers is that they are sold legally on the internet as leather cleaners. Where can you buy coke as a milk powder!? And that's the danger, because of the legal distribution you think it's a clean thing. In the meantime, poppers are chemical waste with a minimal amount of what should be in them! And yes 6 puffs in 2 hours, 1 day later short of breath, 2 days later burning for 6 weeks. That means too much acid, which settles in the mucous membranes and forms nitric acid. Everyone can do as they want, poppers are cool of course, I think so too. But too dangerous for the few minutes. But it is clear that the gay community downplays everything. It's like trying to take the farmer's manure fork. More people have problems than you think after poppers.

WHAT A LOAD said on Mon, 7 Mar 2022 at 13:07...

@666

Sorry for getting the timeframe incorrect. Still think you're trying to sell a moralistic bill of goods. If you know what the problem is, why do you have to come on this forum to create a histrionic display other than to seek attention?

You already had a problem caused by whatever you got ahold of (if you are so informed, why did you use isopropyl?) so why did you use them again? Shame on you.

You sound like a drunk who's found religion and becomes addicted to preaching at everyone they see about the evils of demon rum. Most of us are doing fine using poppers. Lay off the sermons and spare us the dramatics. Seriously, go back and read you initial post. Maybe you should try to get booked on Dr. Phil.

PS. Sherlock - I'm not a member of the gay community. See? You don't know everything.

666 said on Mon, 7 Mar 2022 at 16:36...

@ WHAT A LOAD

Is anyone forcing you to read what I write? You come across as an annoyed poppers seller.

Why did I use it? Because I didn't bring into context that you get such severe problems from poppers. Now I know it.

Why am I writing this here? To maybe find someone who has similar symptoms, who may have experienced improvement and can give tips as most doctors are not familiar with this.

You don't have any empathy and respect for others.
Why don't you get your cock out and just shoot your brain with poppers so that you don't get what's written here anymore? You should reduce your consumption a bit apparently you are very easily irritable mister Poppers.

Anonymous said on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 10:19...

I come from central europe....what country? your english is good, but you are combative and cranky, bro/ chill....

WHAT A LOAD said on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 21:40...

@666

Your post has confirmed what I suspected all along which is that you are posting on here for narcissistic supply. You have now progressed to narcissistic rage since I denied you that supply and called out your behavior.

Wishing me harm just because I'm not playing along with your game? Sounds like you are an irritable monster.

I have empathy and respect for plenty of people, just not you. You don't sound too bright so I'll be the one to tell you - respect is earned. And empathy is not something to be wasted on those who don't deserve it.

And no one is forcing to read this.

666 said on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 22:46...

@WHAT A LOAD

You think you come across as smart here right? What I want here is to find users who have similar problems, if the doctors have no idea about poppers, it makes sense to look for help in such a forum.

You're talking about earning respect? You talk about empathy only gets respect? Then take a look at your first post here..

You're implying that I'm the same person as Josh, which I'm not. You don't think that I have strong symptoms from 6 hits, 5 WEEKS not months as you write, maybe you should learn to read properly.

So let's sum it up, you accuse me of being a fake profile, you accuse me of being a liar, you don't read things correctly. And again for you, the problems came from pentyl not isopropyl. And someone like you tell me something about respect?

Please dont tell me stupid shit about fearporn or narcissitic supply.

You don't seem to be the wise man you think you are. Think about your first post and my reaction.

WHAT A LOAD said on Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 23:51...

@666

I guess you put me in my place. Your sputtering rage only confirms what I said. Yeah, the only counter argument you have to my comments consists of insults and a fixation on a minor detail that I got wrong which I acknowledged. That alone is more than you can say for yourself.

Maybe you should re-read your original post. You did some poppers, had a bad reaction, went to the doctor and started feeling better. But instead of taking your own advice that you're now giving to us, you dug in your heels and did them again with more serious side effects. If this happened because of "acid" as you've claimed in this thread, it's mind boggling that you took more than one hit. How you managed that is troubling because poppers that have degraded to the point of being that acidic have a horrible smell and cause searing pain the nostrils. If you indeed did take "6 or 7" hits that was extremely foolish and undermines your whole poor me story. You said the bottle was "fresh", but if by that you mean newly purchased that isn't the same thing. And if you did indeed use isopropyl nitrite you should be grateful you didn't damage your eyesight. By the way, you should brush up on your reading skills. I didn't say that isopropyl caused your alleged problems only that I was surprised you even used that stuff. And since you are being so pedantic, that was in my second post.

So yeah, I have no respect for someone who does something so stupid it could be called reckless and then starts lecturing others and expecting them to change their behavior because he told them to. But this only holds if you believe their idiotic story in the first place.

I never claimed to be wise. I do have decades of experience with poppers and am skeptical of what you've said.

The internet is full of people who post in forums looking to get their jollies by exploiting others for their empathy. See? You aren't all that exceptional yourself.

666 said on Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 07:33...

@ WHAT A LOAD

Is good. You don't need to explain yourself. I just wanted to help and share, your comments made it seem like you were mad at someone who is having post-consumer problems. Difficult for me to understand.

The world is crazy enough these days, the shit with the lungs costs me a lot of energy, I don't feel like having such pointless arguments. Ultimately, I have no idea what was going on with the stuff. I read a lot of things that match my symptoms in connection with nitrite who was not clean, then you say it can't be .. What's true and what's not. In the end nobody knows. Let's make peace and end this shit, it doesn't make sense.

WHAT A LOAD said on Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 18:42...

@666

You had problems with both the isopropyl and the pentyl (both of which I avoid using). Yet you say it was definitely the pentyl. That doesn't add up. And if it was due to the pentyl being too acidic there's no way the aroma would have been "softer" as you described it. It would have been extremely harsh and caustic. I do wonder what the actual level of your popper usage is. What you're describing sounds like it's related to heavy usage. That's why I'm skeptical of your account.

The problem with doctors is that they decide what might be the cause of the patient's ailment and then do tests to confirm that. If the test results don't confirm what they suspected (as you said your blood test was ok) they usually throw up their hands and give no diagnosis. It's not like it is in TV shows where the dedicated MD searches until they find the answer. I've been through this a few times and have seen it happen to people I know.

Get some pleurisy root, simmer it for ten minutes and drink it as a tea. It might ease your symptoms. Drink it for a few weeks to see if it helps. Herbs work more slowly than drugs so be patient.

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