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Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 22:04

Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 22:09...

I'll be leaving this site.....I've said all I can say.....expect some degree of inconsistency and frustration regardless of method....and if you experience any unpleasant side effects from butyl and isobutyl, you may want to give amyl a try.

infosecpig said on Sat, 1 Jan 2022 at 23:00...

nitritespecialist, if you are tired of someone impersonating you on this anonymous site, you can use keybase and GPG to cryptographically sign your messages for verification that they're yours

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 00:18...

@info...thank you

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 03:11...

same old garbage here. people that know nothing impersonating me and my work. always knew there'd be persecution even though I did the work for most of you, taking up the helm when the undisputed king of poppers JOE miller died in 2010. making over 10 thousand brews since he died, testing them everyday for over 13 years now and going.

The most knowledgeable about poppers and side effects on the plkanet and no gratitude.

101st Chairborne said on Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 10:37...

Without wishing to be involved in the feuds you guys have, there is one thing you should know: Joe Miller was not the "undisputed king of poppers'. That guy's name was Jay Freezer, maybe even Hassing. Miller purchased Pac West, he was not a chemist, he did not produce amyl nitrite, but he was a successful businessman. He was also a philanthropist. The products that are praised were produced in Harding Street, the bottling technology was state-of-the art, the turnover was high, and the branding was awesome. Nitrites degrade, simple fact. So, if the IBN you liked is fresh, due to bottling tech and t/o, it is better. The exact same IBN coming from another place, bottled using an alternative tech, and without the benefits of high t/o, will have a different characteristic. The logic also applies to LRM pentyl, shipped from BC and making a long journey, think about that. Magic formulas, factional dissent about amyl / butyl, are red herrings. You like pentyl...OK...you like butyl...OK...make sure it is fresh and you will be satisfied. Life at the moment is not easy for anyone, everyone should chill.

Anonymous said on Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 06:57...

@ 101st Chairborne: Thank you for your very constructive and informative response. Your comments and observations regarding the popper product manufacturing process and freshness are absolutely correct. Thanks again!

Anonymous said on Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 17:09...

@101....Joe Miller was the last person making high quality consistent poppers that were sold and distributed everywhere. I know....I was able to buy high quality consistent poppers EVERYWHERE up until he died. His poppers had one little AA ball in each bottle and there wasn't any dust/murkiness in them. Now I know of nowhere to get the same quality and consistency.

Harding Street that you mentioned is in Indianapolis, IN where Joe lived and made his poppers. Unless you worked in his facility, OR had his poppers tested during the course of his reign, there is NO way you could say with certainty that he NEVER made amyl nitrite.

Poppers are better fresh....if they start out well made and are not already degraded. But the shelf life is probably months if properly bottled. Amyl nitrite ampules have a shelf life of 2 years.

Anonymous said on Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 17:17...

I was wrong....it's 3 years according to James Alexander.

James Alexander’s Amyl Nitrite Inhalant USP carries an expiration date of three years.

101st Chairborne said on Sun, 9 Jan 2022 at 08:39...

> NEVER made

He did not make anything. Great Lakes Products only bottled, and Pac West Distributing was the owner of the brand. Miller's twin brother inherited PWD and sold it.

He certainly never involved himself with amyl nitrite, PWD / GLP was not a bathtub operation, it was mindful of regulations. You cannot distribute amyl nitrite in the USA, or why you think that iso butyl nitrite is being used? Or why PWD USA Formula was hexyl? The idea that Mr Miller was some genius chemist, driven by a desire to create the perfect poppers, is incorrect.

Anonymous said on Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 15:44...

Joe Miller was never a chemist. Nobody said he was. Nobody has ventured a theory as to why he allegedly killed himself either.

The fact remains whoever inherited and/or ran his operation DID NOT choose to duplicate the business model and formula after Joe died.

This raises the next big question of WHY not?

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