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Alkyl Nitrite Preparation Guide

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Topic created by BDB
on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 00:43

BDB said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 00:43...

looking for a copy of this if anyone happened to save it / if The Professor still happens to be lurking this forum.

Referencing the thread here http://poppersguide.com/forum/11682

It seems the link is dead, I checked it out a few weeks ago but stupidly forgot to save it, and now it seems it's gone forever. Would love it if someone doesn't mind posting it for posterity!

Smart Man said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 05:07...

Whatever you do, do not trust that retard "Nitritespecialist." He doesn't know what he's talking about. Do a web search on the William Noyes method for preparing alkyl nitrites. You will need a relatively pure NaNO2 which you won't be able to find easily. If you use a dropping funnel, put the tip BELOW the line of the top phase, let's say at least 20% below the surface.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 14:32...

@BDB.....I posted the German patent from 2008, where they tell you how to make a 99% pure alkyl nitrite. I started with William Noyes, from 1933, but they use sulfuric acid, which has some problems associated with it...like thick precip. The German patent even mentions the Noyes method.

I think it's imperative to get a factory sealed source of alcohol. I just made 20mls of n-amyl nitrite following the patent and my product is VERY good...good odor and effects.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 14:42...

The German patent method from 2008, where they claim they can easily make a 99% pure alkyl nitrite is summarized below:

1 mole alcohol to 1.01 mole acid to 1.20(max) sodium nitrite
For amyl nitrite this would be,
88 grams one pentanol, 101 mls 32% muriatic acid and 69 grams SN(plus up to 20% extra)

Chill the acid and alcohol and simultaneously slowly add them together with stir bar.

Use 40% SN solution which is 4 parts water to 6 parts SN.

Chill this solution and then slowly drip into the acid/alcohol mixture with mixing. Harvest right away and neutralize/dry/store.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 14:46...

Typo: 40%SN is 4 parts SN to 6 parts water. One ml of water is one gram....so for example......4 grams SN into 6 mls water or 6 grams water is a 40% solution of SN.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 15:01...

I have a theory as to why adding the SN to the acid/alcohol works better than the other way around.

The expected reaction is that when adding a mix of acid/alcohol to a solution of SN, blue nitrous acid(unstable) will form and bump into the alcohol to immediately form an alkyl nitrite, which is also somewhat unstable but not as much as the blue nitrous acid.

So if all the alcohol/acid is present in the pot, when drips of SN solution are added, the small amounts of nitrous acid that form will more likely bump into the alcohol instantly and form an alkyl nitrite. The unstable nitrous acid won't be lingering around looking for some alcohol because there will be plenty of it everywhere - at least during the start of the reaction.

Now...if the acid/alcohol mixture is added to the SN solution, the nitrous acid formed will take longer to bump into the alcohol to form the alkyl nitrite simply because there's a much bigger ocean of SN present to begin with and there's only a little alcohol being added at one time...so the nitrous acid being formed takes longer to find the alcohol to form the alkyl nitrite. During the search for the alcohol, the blue nitrous risks forming side reactions or degradation(since it's very unstable). Also, any product formed rises to the top, and if acid is added or dropped from above, it will mix with the form alkyl nitrite and degrade it.

Clapham_omnibus said on Wed, 22 Dec 2021 at 21:26...

So the OP asks a question, smart man warns about nitritespecialist's idiocy, and then the anti-legends himself not only changes the topic, but babbles about why he thinks his German method is superior?

That sounds like claim without proof to me. Especially since he includes his bias in his "theory". Where is the proof that the German method is superior? I don't mean anecdotal evidence like " my brews are better now" because the guy seems to be satisfied with even something as weak as hexyl? I mean actual evidence. Most of the patents out there claim high purity, high yield. Patents are not science. All you have to do is convince a patient officer, not a chemist.

I Agree with smart man, the post above is barely intelligible to me, and sounds a bit frantic to convince.

Speaking of. In the last paragraph, trying to explain his bias, he supposed that if acid and alcohol are dropped into a sodium nitrite solution, that the nitrous acid will somehow be starved searching for alcohol? The alcohol is literally right there, in every drop. There is no need to search for it.

Second, he mentions that HCL will destroy yield since it is dropped from above, and yield is on top. The solution seems to me to drop the acid under the yield, as is mentioned in many preparation write-ups.but I'm not trying to convince anyone that a particular method is best.

Cart before the horse dude. Find out what works best, period, not what YOU prefer. Then, the reasons will reveal themselves to you.

We know you prefer a nitrite that's weaker than the Butyl's due to difficulty with side effects, yet everything you do guarantees side effects.

Just saying, this guy will take any topic and turn it into a commercial for his own failures.

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 19:00...

He tries to sound like a different persona, but it's all the same shit.

He has NEVER provided any proof his brews are 95% pure as he claims. The German patent has actual chemists who used a gas analyzer to test each of their brews...and each was near 99%. Are they lying? Maybe...but I would think the Professor would be the more likely liar.

One drop of alcohol in a sea of sodium nitrite solution is not going to bump into a tiny drop of nitrous acid that just formed as quickly as if the ocean is made up mostly of the alcohol and acid already. It's common sense.

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 19:02...

And I just tested my brew of n-amyl today...6 days after being made...stored at RT and exposed a lot to air....its more potent than it was. So something is definitely RIGHT about the mixing strategy.

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 20:52...

And for those who are criticizing the German method of making alkyl nitrites, why don't you do it FIRST and then perhaps any of your criticisms/findings would have substance and be more authentic.

As for me...I've performed the method a handful of times and it makes a better amyl nitrite that lasts longer. And that's my conclusion. You need more proof? Then do it!!!!

NitriteExpert said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 22:14...

Oh my God, going on a rant again eh? Ridiculous ideas from a ridiculous man having nothing better to do than imagine what it's like to be a real boy.
He thinks ridiculously that if
you drop down alcohol and acid, the alcohol will magically get lost? And that's his big reveal an idea that's ridiculous.

Thanks for playing goon but the judges have brought out the hook.

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 24 Dec 2021 at 22:15...

lol......at least I've got good poppers to whiff now compared to the shit you all are inhaling.

NitriteExpert said on Fri, 24 Dec 2021 at 23:24...

At least not inhaling sweet poison and thinking it's the shit because I'm a dope.

BDB said on Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 21:06...

Gonna just go ahead and bump this one up, thanks for the input from othersÖ but yeah, Iím really after the document originally requested if anyone happens to still have it.

virtualpiggyself said on Fri, 18 Feb 2022 at 16:38...

Hi BDB, I hope that you're doing ok. I have the file, so i uploaded it to this link https://we.tl/t-4qHhTu4A4m

BDB said on Sun, 6 Mar 2022 at 09:51...

@virtualpiggyself, much obliged! However it seems Iím too late, the link says the file has expired :-(
I donít suppose I could trouble you to upload it again? Iíll have to be better about checking back frequently!

Cheers

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