Physical vs Psychoactive Effects

Topic created by MD_Bottom
on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 02:43

MD_Bottom said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 02:43...

As a long-time user of poppers, since way back in the '80s, I know there are two main reasons for using them. One, for the relaxation effect on the muscles in the rectum (physical effect), and two, for the effect that makes the user extremely horny (psychoactive effect).

I'd be curious to hear everyone's opinion on physical effect vs psychoactive effect of the various nitrites. Seems to me that Amyl and Butyl are the best nitrites for the psychoactive effect, with good butyl being the absolute best, whereas just about any nitrite gives you the physical effect.

Other opinions?

Steve said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 04:05...

Hi MD Bottom I totally agree with you those are definitely why I use them was introduced to them during my very first gay experience by a Top man I met and WOW do they make me horny and it seems that the Top guys know that so they want you to do them

Elvis said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 18:44...

As a straight male, my use of poppers is strictly for popperbating. So I am constantly striving to find poppers providing the best psychological or psychoactive experience. I also started my popper use in the late 1980s. Buying from a Lions Den adult bookstore in Ohio USA. Those days were awesome. A bottle of Rush and a Club or Hustler magazine, and I was in jerk-off heaven.

I know that people here give praises to Joe Miller. And there are those people here that get tired of those people who like to bring his name up. But his poppers

Elvis said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 18:45...

Were awesome.

Anonymous said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 20:08...

Alkyl nitrites are not psychoactive substances. The biggest problem with many people using poppers is not understanding this.

The Dreadful Flying Glove said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 22:16...

@Anonymous: Yes, you are correct. Poppers have zero psychoactive effect, as has been proven by science in a recent legislative case. People will continue to say they do, but they don't.

rhino-post said on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 22:43...

They may not have any psychoactive effect but poppers plus cannabis has guided me on some very interesting visits to somewhere other than this earthly plane.

Sham Wow Guy said on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 00:15...

I can't do anything sexual without poppers. Sorry. Not going to happen anymore. I tried going cold turkey and sex without poppers is just not as fun to me anymore after 10 years of solid use. I was at the video store. The rooms have frosted windows you can clear with a button. I cleared it and a 10 inch black dick was waiting on the other side. I didn't have any poppers on me at the time because I was trying to take a break. I wanted the cock but knew I couldn't take it without a hit of poppers so I closed the window and just jerked off and went home.

Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 15:04...

Joe Miller's poppers, circa 2008-10, were the absolute best and very consistent. Everything else since, including LRM in Canada, are NOT as good. I don't know if Joe's poppers were butyl or n-amyl except to say they didn't have a pronounced odor, like banana or nail polish. They did go dead within 24 hours of opening. I remember a distinct spectrum of effects such as.....dreamy, relaxed, surreal, wanton state of mind, slut inducing, hyper libido, immediate and strong ass relax, loud thumping of heart in ears....but NEVER any side effects like mucous, low blood pressure, cough, red nose, yellow fingers/skin, or acidic scent.

The BEST poppers, which excludes almost everything on the world market, do have a psychoactive effect. It's the dreamy, surreal, slutty, horny effect combined with mild euphoria. The physical effects are present in even bad poppers tainted with impurities. It is my guess that n-butyl and n-amyl have the strongest mental effects, which probably accounts for the huge markup in price at large chemical dealers. That said, even n-butyl and n-amyl will NOT deliver if they don't contain the proper chemical composition, such as zero acid, zero water, and zero interfering impurities.

Billy said on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 18:48...

Golden Cock Poppers have an n-butyl for sale. Any trip reports?

Elvis said on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 19:23...

With the number of different products and formulas that Goldencock offers, I wish they would offer a sampler package so we could try an assortment of them at a price that wouldn't break the bank. Hopefully they read this.

The Dreadful Flying Glove said on Thu, 25 Nov 2021 at 09:21...

>do have a psychoactive effect.

No, they do not. Only a quack would say that - stick to the science, use language correctly. Leave snake oil talk to the shills.

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 16:26...

The only reason a person would believe the best poppers have no mental effects...is simply because they've only tried bad poppers, which are available everywhere. One bad mental effect, which I only experienced with less then perfect home brew, is a sudden come down lasting only a few minutes....whereby you almost start crying over some sad fleeting thought. This experience provides a window into how chemicals, natural or otherwise, impact our emotions and how we are not in control of our mind like we think.

Anonymous said on Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 17:58...

Mental effect and psychoactive effect are different things. When you are eating food you get mental effects but the food is not psychoactive.

Alkyl nitrites cannot have psychoactive effects because they can't reach your brains.

Billy said on Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 10:33...

I haven't had a noticeable psychoactive effect from isobutyl, n-butyl and butyl blend poppers I have used this year.

They have totally caved my blood oxygenation but the trippiness has been very very minor and probably as much due to the alcohol that I sometimes drink. I.e. it's relaxation it's not really a mental/psychoactive thing.

Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 13:36...

I cry when I eat onions. I suppose that could be attributed to a psychoactive effect except we know it's more an irritation of the cells in the nostrils/sinus cavity. It doesn't matter what you call the potential mental effects of poppers or exactly how these effects arise. What matters most is that "good" poppers do and can provide a spectrum of pleasurable mental effects. It's not just an ass relax with accompanying increase in heart rate. The bad ones give a trance black out effect whereby suddenly you lose awareness of time and your environment and even whether or not you just experienced anything pleasurable or not. It's just a momentary black out, but it's real.

Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 13:40...

The most interesting and important aspect to the mental effects of poppers is that there is a wide range of effects possible dependent upon the exact chemical composition. An enterprising chemist would be most interested to discover exactly which compositions correlate with each experienced effect.

Anonymous said on Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 14:00...

We chemists are not at all interested in alkyl nitrites. But we can read and understand written. Mr Nitritespecialist you again are writing every kind fantasy stories about alkyl nitrites. And that is not bad. Good imagination is a blessing. But sometimes the facts which are based on research tells the other story.

The Dreadful Flying Glove said on Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 10:26...

fantasy stories about alkyl nitrites

Yes...a teller of fairy tales. Poppers do not have any psychoactive properties whatsoever....FACT. Language exists to be used correctly, not to promote misunderstanding and confusion. Respect the English language please!

cunty said on Sun, 19 Dec 2021 at 09:28...

This has been my experience using poppers, of course you can get a bad batch with poor effects from any type

Isoamyl- good physical effects with very low psychoactive effects, makes your dick soft

Pentyl- good physical effects with good psychoactive effects, no side effects, probably the best option for most people

Isopropyl- great physical effects with high psychoactive effects, can cause eye damage, headaches, sore throat and lots of other awful things, not worth harming yourself, best avoided

I have never tried butyl poppers before as they are difficult to source in my country

Now on to other matters… “Psychoactive, also called psychotropic, is a term that is applied to chemical substances that change a person's mental state by affecting the way the brain and nervous system work. This can lead to intoxication, which is often the main reason people choose to take psychoactive drugs”

Poppers absolutely have psychoactive effects on the mind, how people are even debating this is beyond me… Are you confusing the term psychoactive with hallucinogen or something like that?

caleb said on Sun, 30 Jan 2022 at 09:39...

it is so nice to just post here without needing to register. it is my first time.

I have had a phase where poppers felt very mental-effect-y (I'll stay away from using any term that might have a technical meaning), and now they do not. With the general unreliability with poppers, it's hard to say if the poppers are different, or I am different. But it is very likely that I am different.

That is to say, it's very trick to talk about our perception of our mental state, but I'll say that I too experienced what could most succinctly be described as "spiritual stuff" when using (in combination with weed), but why then can I not recreate it? I think mindset is a big part of it.