OMG...something awesome happened!!!

Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Thu, 23 Sep 2021 at 17:21

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Sep 2021 at 17:21...

Just a few hours ago, I poured off my 30 ml JJ Black into 3-10 ml bottles, in which I had placed Kcarb and MS4.

The effects are drastically stronger....a sweet, pleasant aroma now pervades the nostrils and surrounds the head. And the ass/prostate effects are stupendous. It's as if someone is literally squeezing the prostate and forcing it to cum. It's immensely pleasurable.

There is NO WAY I would want amyl nitrite to be any stronger. I am shocked, stunned and happy. I don't know why the previous LRM bottles from two months ago did not provide identical effects. But I did note earlier that the odor is markedly different...perhaps indicating a higher purity. It's markedly fruity, which most of the literature says it should be.

The Dreadful Flying Glove said on Thu, 23 Sep 2021 at 17:27...

"periods of great excitement or euphoria, delusions, and overactivity."

;-)

The Professor said on Thu, 23 Sep 2021 at 18:22...

@TDFG: fun

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Sep 2021 at 20:42...

I hit it really hard again. It's very special indeed. This must be the potential I've occasionally felt and sought for the last ten years. It wears off quickly, but it's super pleasurable and intense while it's working its magic. For those who want poppers to give them a prostate orgasm, this is what should do it!!

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 24 Sep 2021 at 00:07...

Had another session...this is the ABSOLUTE BEST I've ever had. I was able to sustain maximum pleasure without let up. The level of joy and physical pleasure was over the top, but thoroughly pleasurable.

This proves once and for all that pentyl nitrite CAN be excellent and powerful. The telltale odor is Fruity, like Juicy Fruit gum. It's very mild and aromatic and pleasant. There is NO camphorous odor...or anything funky in it.

Rob said on Fri, 24 Sep 2021 at 00:13...

excellent!.....now market it, and save us from the absolute shit product in the UK

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 24 Sep 2021 at 14:34...

Someone hellllllllllllllllllllllllllpppp me please!!!! These last pentyl poppers are so good, I've gone wild. I went a little crazy during my last session and ended up spilling them down my leg and then my setups broke and fell, causing a nasty scratch on the other leg. Plus, there's Crisco everywhere....the walls, ceilings, floors and a track of it all the way to the bathroom. WTF am I'm supposed to do now???

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 24 Sep 2021 at 14:35...

@Rob...I got it from France, but it's made in Canada.

Anonymous said on Fri, 24 Sep 2021 at 18:59...

grow up?

Dr Bob said on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 at 08:48...

Narcotics Anonymous?

TreXXX said on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 at 18:33...

Help me out here, what Kcarb and MS4? And how much did you put in each bottle?

Padraig said on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 at 18:40...

Isn't MS4 a Puerto-Rican prison gang?

The Master (Baiter) said on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 at 18:59...

@Padraig, since you are asking. Is Ken Jones, the Ken Jones from the Professor Popper's Problem British TV series? or is Ken Jones the gay activist? Which Ken Jones is it?

Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 at 20:38...

@Trexx....I got my HiMedia Potassium Carbonate on Amazon and the molecular sieves from Consolidated Chemical on Amazon as well.

Charlie Chuckles said on Sat, 25 Sep 2021 at 23:20...

@Nitritespecialist

What's the general consensus about CCS? Is the quality as labeled? I was looking at things other than sieves.

However, how are their sieves? I see they have 4A at about half the price delivered of Sigma 3A.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 02:30...

@Charlie

It is very good and opens the anal canal all the way to the kidneys if you are not careful. However, it is not as good as Joe Miller's recipe with his eleven secret herbs and spices which is what makes a normal chemical "artisinal."

Buy their 4A sieves. The H2O molecules will fit right in.

Charlie Chuckles said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 02:40...

TY. How are the alcohols from consolidated? I saw 1 review that said they didn't think they got what they ordered.

Toby said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 06:29...

@Nitritespecialist: Thanks for this information. May I ask you:

(1) Why do you not think that Locker Room does not add Kcarb and MS4 itself? I'm not challenging your method, I'm just expressing surprise about what the manufacturer's don't know or add this to the poppers?

(2) Regarding the molecular sieve, did you pour both the Kcarb and MS4 into the sieve, then collect the liquid at the bottom and add it to the popper? Is this what you meant when you referred to the molecular sieve?

Thanks for any response!

smell said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 09:28...

Odours feel different depending on concentration. It is very possible that your camphor odour is the same as the fruity odour you feel now. For ex. fruits have chemicals which human feels pleasant in the fruit but when the chemical is concentrated the smell is awful.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 15:42...

@smell...true...but today, after sitting on Kcarb for 5 days...there is no discernible odor. Just an aromatic aroma...nearly neutral. I was told that the prior cat piss odor might be due to the heat wave they had in British Columbia where LRM is located. Temps matters.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 15:49...

@Toby and Charlie....I can't answer all your questions with certainty. I am dubious of Consolidated Chemical. If you get sieves from them, you can heat them up in an oven to make sure they are good and dry. It's better if they come in a sealed bag but CC's don't.

I don't know if LRM adds any preservative to their "cleaners". I have been told that their cleaners usually last 2 to 3 months after receipt, assuming they are in the frig and not opened a lot. The ones I had lasted two months at room temp and were opened a lot. I definitely noticed less acid scent after placing Kcarb into them. Today, I had a session and I couldn't detect any distinct odor. It was plenty potent and very enjoyable.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 15:52...

@Charlie....the alcohols need to be pure and stored properly. CC pours them off from larger containers and I doubt they add an inert gas for further protection. They are NOT sealed when sent out. I have long purchased all my alcohols from TCI. They come sealed and with lot numbers. The Science Company in Denver might get some for you.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 16:00...

@Trexx...I don't know the ideal amount of Kcarb to add. The patent said 4% by weight was ample, that more doesn't help. But since it doesn't seem to hurt either, I just add about a 1/8th inch layer to a bottom of a 10ml bottle. The Kcarb doesn't work instantly. It needs time to "digest" acids. I have swirled the bottle periodically to stir up sediments. You could also pour off onto fresh Kcarb.

The Professor said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 16:52...

Consolidated chemical salvo is perfectly suitable. Going from reviews only, their molecular sieve must be activated prior to use, and a soccer oven won't cut it.

The patent regarding stabilizing alkyl nitrite in SEALED containers calls for, IIRC, 0.5-2% w/v of an alkali metallic carbonate.

At that concentration, they will prevent gas buildup in SEALED containers, which starts the degradation cascade.

At higher concentrations, the carbonate characteristics take over, in that it is now primarily an acid sink. A less expensive carbonate that you probably already own is baking soda. Same effect, less expense

Charlie Chuckles said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 19:30...

Thank you Specialist for the CCS info.

Professor: by salvo, do you mean sieves or alcohol? ty

The Professor said on Sun, 26 Sep 2021 at 20:06...

salvo should be alcohol(s) Consolidated chemical alcohols are perfectly fine; I can't vouch for their sieves; some buyer remarks mention that they need to be activated

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 14:09...

I have purchased alcohols from CC, but they are NOT sealed and do not have a lot number. The amyl and butyl alcohols I bought from CC did NOT smell the same as TCI's, which is factory sealed and comes with a lot number and COA.

I have NOT used baking soda as a preservative so I can't say for certain if it works as well as Kcarb, NaCarb or not. BUT baking soda, found in the grocery store, is not anhydrous. You don't want to add anything that has traces of water in it to a popper. But everyone is free to try. I can't recommend it, because I haven't done it. I can recommend anhydrous Kcarb because I've done it and it works.

The Professor said on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 17:08...

ALl the reaction cares about, with regard to the synthesis, and repeated here several times that the chosen alcohol has X number of methyl groups (typically 3 or 4). That is the ENTIRETY of the alcohols contribution to the yield; and it determines the vapor strength.

The nitrite doesn't care what the alcohol smells like, or if it has a lower pH than nominal. Therefore, one can always choose to buy from the top shelf, but some also like to be reasonable and/or frugal, and in that respect, the alcohols are NOT where to spend you money.

One the one side, you have bargain basement stuff that contains acetates (the brand man-of-ohm used to sell IIRC n-Amyl on eby, but it wasn't really amyl).

on the other side, you have lab certified alcohols that will cost you much more, and if you are using , perhaps, ethanol, for some lab purpose, you MIGHT want to spend that much, it depends on the prep.

For the prep of Alkyl nitrites, the nitrous acid only cares about the number of methyl groups it is nitrosating, and that's what it's all about.

Consolidated used to the run by USPOPshop; they were closed down years ago, but the consolidated chemical store still operates, and their alcohol are suitable

The baking soda in your frig (probably an open box) is more than suitable; it doesn't have to be anhydrous, it will become hydrous the instant it neutralizes acid in the yield. An adsorbant of some type goes a LONG way in removing water from the yield, and will continue to remove water until it's full.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 21:49...

Regarding alcohols: I bought in house amyl alcohol from my typical dealer and it came to me smelling of sour feet and vinegar. I knew it wasn't right by the odor alone. Whenever I made a popper with it, that stench was still there and lingered on my skin. Also, an old journal stated that in order to get the purest alkyl nitrite, the alcohol has to be pure. This was determined by chemists who tested for purity of product and reagents and they concluded that the purity of the alcohol was of utmost importance , after they had used several different sources of alcohol. Of course, it wouldn't matter as much if distillation of the nitrite was part of the procedure.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 21:57...

Baking soda can be heated in an oven to form anhydrous sodium carbonate, which is what the 1960 patent listed as one preservative that worked well. I've tried sodium carbonate and it does work.

The Professor said on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 22:31...

I'd like to see a recent article that claims alcohol purity is of utmost importance.

In ancient times (greece) and even in somewhat modern times (1800's) chemistry writeups often talk about the purity of reactants; reactants WEREN'T pure back then, and SOME alcohols hadn't even been synthesized yet (the amyl alcohols for example). They were scrounging for ways to obtain purity in reactants.

Today's reactants are much more pure; in an alkyl nitrite reaction, utmost purity of concern is the sodium nitrite

Granted, if you buy bottom of the basket n-Amyl (and it will likely be tainted with acetates, since amyl acetate smells somewhat like amyl alcohol), then you will get a junk reaction. What you tried to nitrosate didn't have 5 methyl groups, it had two (if i'm looking at the amyl acetate molecule correctly.

I've never tried to nitrosate amyl acetate, but i bet it wouyldn't go well.

Amyl ALCOHOL, however, at ANY quality, will have 5 methyl groups and a nitrosatable hydroxyl group (not present in the acetate). it might be slightly acidic, but you aren't drinking it, you are inhaling the vapors of a product made with it.

The Professor said on Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 22:32...

ANY carbonate works; no need to heat the baking soda into washing soda; they are both carbonates