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Topic created by Steve
on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 00:32
Steve said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 00:32...
Where can I find in US? Like a legit website...
The Professor said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 01:11...
Amyl is relatively low reactivity, and shouldn't degrade TOO much from being shipped from overseas (like butyls qand propyls do, secerely).
taking that into account; some people have luck importing personal amounts from france.
The product is not legal to sell in the US, so you'd have to look for a low volume seller. It looks like goldencock is selling Amyl (i'm not vouching, just saw it available on their website when I was noticing that they ALSO make a blend).
Canuck SB said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 06:11...
Ive tried Goldencock didnt like the namyl gave me cold chills but the rest were not that bad, Goldencock could definitely use your advice and i havent tried the new blend ive tried premium,superior and superman they gave me phlegm during and for a few days and nasal congestion during sessions.
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 12:18...
@Canuck, if a amyl gave you cold chills, it likely has some type of nasty impurity in it. Just another example of what impurities can and will do...they change both odor and effects - usually for the worse. Fractional distillation is the best way to remove impurities from poppers. Crossing your fingers during each reaction and hoping you end up with a pure product without substantial impurities is a fool's game. I didn't get any side effects of any sort from LRM's poppers...made in BC Canada and I used them a lot. They did finally go completely dead after 2 months at RT. Perhaps storage in fridge would have made them last even longer.
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 12:33...
@Steve....no place in the USA can legally sell amyl nitrite without a script, so I assume they aren't.
Locker Room Marketing in BC, Canada has been making amyl for over 20 years and now markets it worldwide via European distributors. I am awaiting my 3rd shipment from PoppersAroma in France. The first two arrived in the USA without any problem in less than a week.
The manager of LRM would not confirm that pentyl nitrite is the principle compound in their poppers, so I can't say for sure what all is in them. But after using them for 2 months, I would say they are not primarily isobutyl or butyl nitrite...based on the scent alone. They are not particularly sweet smelling, indicative more of amyl nitrite and they didn't give me any side effects even after 2 months of declining purity. At no point, did they give off an odor similar to isopentyl nitrite either. So I am assuming they are indeed pentyl nitrite.
The Professor said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 17:11...
The chill, as always has been, a sign of the vasodilation effects of alkyl nitrites. This is NOT, as Mortimer buried above, a sign of impurities.
One of the cleanest PWD products, back in the day, was banned quiksilver. It was the model that an actual chemist was involved in designing.
While other products were named for their side effects (bolt because you're head felt like it was in a vice, blue boy because of the cyanosis) quiksilver was much more smooth. Any nitrite that's good, however, cannot avoid vasodilation, which causes body temperature to drop.
Luckily, vasodilation is the mechanism that provides the desirable effects.
The Professor said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 17:18...
Disappointing to hear that info about goldencock. I only mentioned them because the OP was asking for amyl in the USA, and although it is legally prescription only, their sure mentions they are selling it.
I've heard both, as usual, that they are junk and that they are great, which is typical, unfortunately
The Professor said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 20:35...
Billy said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 09:35...
Professor, for some reason the red lines of your image made me think of goatse.cx !!
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 13:02...
It is wrong to state that vasodilation is the primary reason an alkyl nitrite can give pleasant effects. Vasodilation is merely the relaxation of blood vessels in response to nitric oxide. Lots of compounds can cause vasodilation BUT they do NOT cause any pleasant or euphoric effects. The Professor is NOT a doctor nor a student of medicine/pharmacology and yet he speaks as if he is.
Nobody knows exactly how and why poppers cause euphoric effects. Nitric oxide relaxes involuntary muscles.. muscles such as those lining blood vessel walls, that are not entirely under conscious control. Other such muscles are within and at the termination of the GI tract. One theory suggests that a burst of O2 to the brain is what causes euphoric/slutty effects of poppers as the heart reflexively beats faster to compensate for a sudden drop in blood pressure(caused by vasodilation).
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 13:07...
From my experience, I have often noticed an uncomfortable "warming" from poppers and NEVER a sudden drop in temperature. When the peripheral blood vessels dilate(expand in circumference), they do give up more heat, but this doesn't cause a person to feel colder. It merely causes them to give off more heat from their extremities.
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 15:54...
More BS that contradicts defined reality.
Basildon is the PRIMARY effect of alkyl nitrites, provided by the metabolism of nitric oxide. That is known.
You can contradict that fact, to your own Paul, but ain't try to convince anyone that it is true when it isn't
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 15:55...
The professor is not a doctor?
But my partner is
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 15:59...
Endothelial nitric oxide vasodilates the inner wall of ANY blood vessel, including those on the brain (where the psychological effects happen)
Burst of O2 to the brain? I haven't heard that idea, but it's obviously false, since alkyl nitrite REDUCES oxygenation of hemoglobin
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 16:03...
Giving off more heat is called radiative cooling. A flushed redness and feeling got is temporary and yes, caused by the initial flushing of the face and chest, but the entire mechanism, radiative cooling, REDUCES body temperature overall.
You continue to argue with reality; there's no way to have a reasonable conversation with such a person
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 16:31...
basildon is vasodilation
Billy said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 16:44...
Well, a good hit of poppers does makes me feel like Bond....
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 17:45...
autocorrect is coming up with some doozies on me; apologies
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 17:54...
LOL....the Professor cannot carry on an intelligent debate because he misses all the points made, and pivots to points never made.
I never said alkyl nitrites do NOT cause vasodilation. I merely stated that this effect is NOT the source of euphoria. Vasodilation, in and of itself, does not cause euphoria. Also, lowering one's blood pressure does NOT cause euphoria. And once the blood pressure becomes too low, a very marked feeling of weakness and unwellness ensues. Death can follow if there is no recovery.
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 18:25...
Looking in the mirror again, you are......in the SAME topic,
ken said a few posts above
It is wrong to state that vasodilation is the primary reason an alkyl nitrite can give pleasant effects.
Vasodilation IS the primary reason that an alkyl nitrite gives pleasant effects.
Remember that people reading this have a MEMORY; they can search prior posts, and read posts in the same topic that contradict what you are currently saying; you are arguing with YOURSELF
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 18:44...
quote from release
"Alkyl nitrites act as a source of nitric oxide, which relaxes the (involuntary) muscles. This is the main reason why it produces a euphoric effect for some. It is also used to treat heart diseases such as angina and to treat cyanide poisoning."
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 18:45...
quote from drug science
"Poppers relax smooth muscle in the body. The loosening of smooth muscle surrounding blood vessels is why poppers cause a drop in blood pressure. The effect on blood pressure and blood vessels in the brain may be what causes some of the effects of poppers"
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 18:48...
"The alkyl group is unreactive and the chemical and biological properties are mainly due to the nitrite group."
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 18:49...
national institute of health says
"effectiveness is due to vasodilator activity in large veins and arteries through an as yet unidentified method of delivering nitric oxide (NO)"
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 19:08...
"The Government needed a way out of this impasse, so they asked the ACMD to find one. The ACMD solved the government's problem by arguing that poppers were not psychoactive because they acted indirectly to change blood flow rather than to act on the brain directly. They argued that there is no evidence that nitric oxide acts on the brain and its only effect on the head is to cause terrible vascular headaches.43 Of course, this is scientifically quite wrong. Nitric oxide is made in the brain and acts on many different brain systems as a neurotransmitter.44"
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 19:12...
The ACMD says
2. ARE “POPPERS” PSYCHOACTIVE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE
PSYCHOACTIVE SUBSTANCES ACT 2016?
2.1.“Poppers” open (dilate) blood vessels, increasing blood flow. It is
generally believed that their effects involve the release of nitric oxide
from nitrite, and this causes relaxation of smooth muscle in blood
vessels, resulting in vasodilation.4
2.2.Smooth muscle is also found in other parts of the body that need to
have an elastic quality, such as the bladder, digestive tract, vagina,
and anal sphincter; and alkyl nitrites relax these smooth muscles too. 5
2.3.Inhaled nitrites are rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream, with the
onset of effects being seen in seconds. The vasodilatory effects
promote an increased blood flow, which often results in temporary
reductions in blood pressure accompanied by increased heart rate and
lightheadedness. Vasodilation of cerebral blood vessels along with
warm sensations and facial flushing are common and contribute to the
users’ perceptions of a “rush” or “high”. 2, 3
The subjective experience of inhaling “poppers”
“The effects start soon after inhalation but only last for a few minutes. People
experience a dizzying ‘rush’ as heartbeat quickens and blood rushes to the
head. A pounding headache, dizziness, nausea, a slowed down sense of
time, a flushed face and neck and a feeling of light-headedness are commonly
reported effects” (Drugwise, 2016).6
2.4.The brain perceives a transient “rush” or “high” as an indirect effect
caused by increased blood flow caused by the dilation of
blood vessels in brain and periphery. The effects of “poppers” on
blood vessels in the brain should be considered to be “peripheral”
as these lie outside the “blood-brain barrier”.
2.5.The definition of a “psychoactive substance” in the Psychoactive
Substances Act 2016 is not explicit with respect to direct or indirect
effects on the central nervous system:"
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 22:21...
The increased blood flow to the brain is NOT caused by lower blood pressure itself....it is caused by the heart's sudden compensation for the lower blood pressure, in which it starts to beat dramatically faster. If a sudden increase in heart rate alone, gave everyone a fleeting high, I'm sure more of us would be racing up and down flights of stairs.
No...there is more going on with alkyl nitrites and it's not well understood, BECAUSE it's of no commercial value to understand ALL the recreational effects of poppers since they are not legal to inhale.
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 22:58...
Argue with reality all you want Morty
@GoldenCockPoppers.com said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 00:25...
As I always inform my customers, n-amyl is not for everyone, and I gladly provide replacement for the product you did not like. For international customers it has to be a separate order, or separate shipping. In your case I replaced a defective leaking bottle (if I remember my customers correctly). As far as side effects/vs impurities go, chills would not be attributed to impurities, unless the product was improperly stored or tempered with.
And if professor wants to test a sample for purity, it will be gladly provided.
As far as legalities go… amyl nitrite was take off the FDA scheduled drug list and is no longer manufactured by pharmaceutical companies, which makes it fall in class with other alkyl nitrites. You know, those that are not for human consumption.
I am looking forward to try out the promised nublu project myself and that will be exciting.
The Professor said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 00:28...
Thanks for the offer, and clarification on the legal status of the amyl nitrites.
Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 13:39...
James Alexander in New Jersey makes amyl nitrite ampules for human consumption.
Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 13:44...
Both the Professor/Wetcotton/Popchef and now the Goldencock persona are sources of lies and misinformation.
The Professor said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 16:44...
ANYBODY that is NOT you then eh? ridiculous
Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 18:00...
Least you didn't try to cover up the most recent lies/misinformation.
Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 18:01...
Of course, you would never admit you were WRONG!!!
The Professor said on Mon, 20 Sep 2021 at 18:07...
OF course I will, and DO; LEARNING is what i'm all about, and that involves error quite a bit.
I didn't respond because debunking you item-by-item is needlessly frustrating, when individuals can see your lies for themselves.