Artisanal Cleaners!

Topic created by Toby
on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 05:51

Toby said on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 05:51...

My bottles from Artisanal Cleaners arrived today!

Picture here: https://imgur.com/a/CGxrlLJ

These bottles are my last hope now in the search of finding the best poppers in the world. If these fail, I will be out of options and I will need to give up my search for an excellent popper. I am very much hoping that these will be the Mother of all Formulas, the best-of-the-best, the creme of the crop, which will usher in a new Golden Age of Poppers for all to experience. Maybe these artisans have cracked the code!

Also, to the Australian guy who recently asked where to get a prescription for poppers, I say again: It's not necessary. These arrived from the USA to Australia perfectly fine. The customs officials don't seem to care at all about a few bottles for personal use. No prescription needed.

I will post feedback soon. For those who have already tried, what you think I could expect?

Thanks,
Toby

Billy said on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 08:18...

Have fun!

I got the 4-bottle sample pack a while back. I wasn't sure if I was going to use them or not, and ripped off the labels. So not sure which were which when I did :-) . But they definitely did seem to have different properties regarding intensity and duration.

One of the bottles was rancid but the rest were good.

Elvis said on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 11:27...

I have placed several orders from them and have been fairly happy. I've had good results from the Flamin product. I have actually gotten well over a weeks use from a single bottle. Opening it maybe 3 times and quickly pouring out some into another larger bottle and quickly putting the cap back on. I hit that stuff pretty hard during a bate session. And it normally takes me a good 5 minutes to fully get my head straight after orgasming. It's definitely not the best popper I've ever had before, but it is a lot better than what is currently out there on the market. I will say that I also received a rancid bottle one time. No big deal though.

Billy said on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 20:29...

Hey Toby I can't remember if you've answered this already, but do you drink alcohol at the same time as you're using poppers?

Because actually the times I really got the OMGOMG feeling with the Artisanal poppers was when I didn't combine with alcohol and had them on their own!

Billy said on Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 20:30...

Though I still think combining with a couple of beers is optimal.

Toby said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 01:12...

I have now tried Artisanal poppers (KABOOM one).

It's strong, that's for sure. I could quickly feel my heart race increase, and it affected my head similar to what I remember propyl to be like. When I climaxed, I my mind felt fried (if you've done weed + poppers + climaxed, I think you may know this feeling). It's a feeling like "jeez, I've really blown my mind, pushed the limits too far.....that was.....something else!" It's not a particularly pleasant feeling though.

I really don't know how to rate this popper. I'd say it's great if you want a strong rush, but it is the opposite of smooth. It goes "Kaboom!" lol.

@Billy: No, I didn't have any alcohol with it. Although I have indulged in the past with alcohol + poppers from time to time. I think that poppers are best whilst you are tipsy, but alcohol can't be used so often, otherwise it quickly leads to abuse.

Calisia said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 04:42...

With Kaboom, it seems to me a little goes a long way. It does have an initial strong rush, but let that disperse and then let it ride. It seems to leave an "afterglow" of total sexual abandon. I am a sissy faggot and quite the slut already, but this made nipple play, perineum play, stroking inner thighs, and anal stimulation drive me completely bananas for up to ten minutes after taking a couple short hits a couple minutes apart.

In my brief encounter this evening with a fresh bottle (this becoming my first time with Kaboom that was truly satisfying, as the first bottle I had I think I was using incorrectly) I found that doing two hits in succession did not make a more intense experience. I also used a 1/2" length of flexible plastic tubing for the hit rather than sniffing from the bottle.

It seems Artisanal products do well with the alternative delivery methods (Awesome Twosome was crazy intense using the sock method, for instance.) The technique of pouring a little into a larger bottle is a smart approach, as it lets it gassify more than the little bottle permits.

I have had incredible luck with Awesome Twosome, and bought it again. It seems to be good with "standard delivery" once it gets to about 3/4 full, but a full bottle doesn't have enough space for the gas to expand, I think. This produced the "gets better with age" effect, which I now think is merely a factor of how much empty space is in the bottle for the gasses to collect.

Elvis said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 15:28...

I agree with what Toby said about his experience with Kaboom. I have that sensation also. Along with Flamin. After I climax, my body almost kind of shakes a bit and I have to slowly adjust my mind and body back to feeling normal. No way do I even attempt to stand up for at least a few minutes. Its kind of like a full body shock that lasts for several minutes for me. As others have mentioned, I might try their Awesome Twosome. Im not really complaining though. I do enjoy the experience. It just takes some time to recover.

The Professor said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 17:26...

@Toby:

The original idea with offering three blends of varying reactivity (an idea that artisanal stole from Popchef2) was to be able to mix and match. e.g. if kaboom is too reactive for your metabolism, blend a bit of it into twosome or something less reactive; that provides a pathway for customers to customize their experience.

I'm not vouching for their product, just passing on info as to the original intent.

The Professor said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 17:37...

@Billy:

enhanced intensity and duration was the second reason for Popchef2's original nitrite blending technique.

on his forum, he describes it through the attributes of elation, sedation and duration.

lower nitrites (hexyl, amyls) have a lower peak, but a longer duration.
higher nitrites have a higher peak, but shorter duration.

I posted a reactivity table here a bit ago, but if you take, for example, isobutyl nitrite (reactivity 91% (normalized to NO at 100%), it has a high peak and shorter duration. If, however, you create a blend of three different nitrites, whose reactivities still amount to an 91% compound, you'll enjoy both the longevity of the lower , as well as the peak of the higher reactivities. (e.g. 100% isobutyl has the same reactivity as a blend of x% n-butyl, x% isobutyl and x% tert-butyl, but it has a higher peak and it lasts longer).

The whole idea is to mix and match until you get what's right for you.

The Professor said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 17:42...

@Calisia:

yes, the liquid does nothing (good) for you, in fact its poisonous. It's the vapor that does the work.

Best case for keeping the product fresh. DON'T dose and store from the same bottle. In use, the container needs to have head space for vapor to develop. In storage, that headspace will speed up the oxidation breakdown of the product, and it gets more harsh and weak.

Always Poppers. Everything Poppers. said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 20:45...

Well I haven't ordered from them since February. They make a good product but I don't order from them during the summer and I don't want to pay $25 for the cold shipping pack. It's a great popper for fall/winter time.
I find I can only get one session out of Kaboom. I have everything set up for a bate session at a local hotel with my own porn set up. I will spend an hour or two watching porn then drive over to my favorite cruising spot(porn arcade). Sometimes I get lucky and bring over someone to play with for awhile. The Kaboom puts me right there and I use it mostly toward the end of sex before I orgasm. It gives me just the right anal tingle during assplay. Flamin and Mistress C are also good. I find that for popperbating to hypno porn that Awesome Twosome is better for me. If sex with another person is going to happen, Flamin and Kaboom are on the menu. Now to be honest. There stuff can't compare to PWD Joe Miller but nothing is on that level and probably will never happen again. Good stuff though. Good shipping. Replaced a couple of broken bottles with new stuff and when they were just starting out on Ebay, they would send me samples of product when I ordered just one bottle or two for feedback. Will hit them up again in September for sure.

Always Poppers. Everything Poppers. said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 20:50...

Let me add for emphasis that they are great to deal with and seem to really want people to be happy with their product. I'd love to travel to them one day and buy in person right off the tap and goon out at a local hotel just to see how much stronger they are before shipment knocks off some of the potency. I know heat isn't good for this type of product.

I never felt ripped off by them. When we had the Texas freeze of 2021. I kept a new shipment in the garage for 2 weeks and they kept fresh for the whole month after I finally started to use them. Granted my garage temp got down to about 9F degrees.

The Professor said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 21:12...

@Always Poppers. Everything Poppers

shipping in cold-packs was Popchef2's idea as well, although I don't think he planned on charging for it.

It depends on the nitrite, and how long the shipping is, but a non-air shipped package of what we would call nublu alpha (reactivity similar to artisanal's MsC if still available) degrades by 15-25% reactivity during a three day non-air shipping event in the summer.

The Professor said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 21:14...

@Always Poppers. Everything Poppers

lower nitrites will degrade more slowly than that, and higher more quickly, but that's an estimate.

Always Poppers. Everything Poppers. said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 21:28...

LOL. Thanks. Your comments along with those of the other chemistry minded people on this thread remind me of this video which is hilarious.
A persons hobby before and after they discover the subreddit for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZK8Z8hulFg

The Professor said on Wed, 11 Aug 2021 at 21:52...

@Always Poppers. Everything Poppers.

great find; nailed it!!

Toby said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 02:19...

@Elvis: I really like your description of Kaboom and Flamin, when you said:

"After I climax, my body almost kind of shakes a bit and I have to slowly adjust my mind and body back to feeling normal. No way do I even attempt to stand up for at least a few minutes. Its kind of like a full body shock that lasts for several minutes for me."

This is a great way of describing the feeling.

Toby said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 02:20...

@ Elvis: Also, do you get that same feeling with weed + poppers (any kind) + climax?

Weed has a combo with poppers in this way, at least for me.

Elvis said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 12:31...

@ Toby. Unfortunately weed has been a no-go for me for quite some many years due to my job. We have random drug tests at my place of employment. I can't complain though, it's a very good job. So it's not worth the risk. But I did smoke weed in my youth along with occasional popper use. But back then ( late 1980's - early 1990s ) my popper use was as a party enhancer. Just another way to get a buzz. It wasn't until later on that I discovered their usefulness in bating along with porn. But I was luckily enough to have had access to Joe Millers quality PWD products then. Plus I was young. I was probably 17 years old or so when I went with a buddy of mine to an adult bookstore where they had many different poppers. My brain was fairly fresh too. So Im sure it hit me a lot harder now. Sadly now I think that buddy of mine has a serious heroin problem. So life sure takes different turns as we progress through life.

Toby said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 13:00...

@ Elvis: All good, thanks for sharing.

I don't smoke weed nowadays, it was a thing of the past. The only substance abuse I have nowadays is poppers.

Swengr2198 said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 18:40...

What are the composition of these? I tend to hate isopropyl and prefer amyl or pentyl

Sous Chef said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 18:59...

From the faq page:

What are your solvent cleaners made of?
Our solvent cleaners only contain isomers of various butyl nitrites. The product does not contain either propyl or isopropyl given that indirect exposure of these can cause eye damage. Also, none of our formulations use amyl or any of its isomers since these are illegal in the US.

What is the difference between the various blends - strength, working time, etc.?
The difference is the type and amounts of the butyl isomers that are used. The MELLOW YELLOW blend is less reactive but very pleasant to work with. While the FLAMIN' blend is the more reactive, but a tad harsher. The AWESOME/TWOSOME blend is a mixture to offer the best characteristics of the two blends. We offer a low cost sampler for you to test the product to better determine which might be best for your specific application.

Blends ranked by Reactivity(Strength):

Blend Working Time Reactivity Reactivity (%)
Mellow Yellow Longest Lowest 82%
Awesome/Twosome Ample Moderate 89%
MsC's no3 Ample Moderate 90%
Flamin' Shorter High 96%
Kaboom! Shortest Highest 100%

The Dreadful Flying Glove said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 19:58...

>>amyl or any of its isomers since these are illegal in the US.

Oh so iso-amyl is illegal? I thought it was only amyl nitrite, 'cus it is a prescription med??

The Professor said on Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 21:27...

@TDFG:

the prescription medication called amyl nitrite is a mixture of isomers.

N-Amyl (normal chain) is a nomenclature that has everything to do with the geometry of the compound, and nothing to do with whether it is 'normal' or not, whatever normal might mean to a person; it by no means describes a natural occurring state.

Until recently, the Amyl isomers were extracted from fusel oils (by-product of fermentation) and thus the name Amyl (of-grain).

When it was identified as a valuable vasodilator, the straight chain molecule hadn't been observed yet; it can now be synthesized, but the straight chain molecule is far more costly than the more naaturaly occurring isoAmyl.

Elvis said on Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 13:01...

With limited bottle openings ( 4-5 times ) my bottle of Flamin is well over 2 weeks old and still potent.

Ben said on Wed, 1 Sep 2021 at 14:33...

Received my order couple weeks ago!

Ordered the sample pack - they're all decent. Wanted to provide some feedback though - the plastic lining the cap remains stuck to the bottle when opening.

Not sure if this is by design, but it makes one handed opening almost impossible.

CiCiBottom said on Sat, 6 Nov 2021 at 18:26...

Long time popper user and have tried just about every brand out there. Wanting to try something new I decided to give artisanal cleaners a try I ordered two of their samplers (one bottle of each style they offer). Not sure if I just got some old stock or what but so far I’ve tried 3 of them and they all have given me severe chest congestion along with a slight cough and phlegm which would last for a day or so. I’ve even switched to commercial poppers like rush and double Scorpio to see if it was just my body and I had zero negative effects when using other brands so I know it’s something with these particular poppers. One of the bottles upon opening had a crusty yellowish white buildup on the rim and the solvent itself smelled rancid almost vomit-like.

Definitely won’t be buying these again, not even going to try the remaining unopened bottles…in the garbage they’ll go.