Lockerroom Final Review - Tears of Joy!!!

Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 14:23

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 14:23...

I've made my final assessment of my 3 Lockerroom 10 ml bottles. I can now throw away my popper making chemicals and just buy OTC Lockerroom. It's plenty good enough.

The label says it's a pentyl(amyl) popper and I believe it is based on odor and effects. I have had zero side effects...no breathing difficulties, no mucous, no yellow skin, no stinging nostrils, no headache, no blurred vision, no auditory disturbances, no yellow halo, and NO plunging blood pressure.

I've had the bottles open for 3 days, some stored at RT, and they still have a good odor and similar effects. In fact, one bottle seems to have better effects after 3 days of use. I am inhaling straight from a 10 ml bottle, so there is lots of air exchange within the bottle's air space, and the product is preserved well enough to still stay fresh and maintain ample potency. There is hissing when opening a bottle, especially after it's been sitting.

The labels are attractive, cover the entire bottle and the wide mouthed 10 ml bottle is perfect for sniffing straight from the bottle. The lid is easy to twist on and off.

Effects: slow build, not a huge rush, but strong ass relax and good trance without blacking out totally.

Lockerroom has the best poppers I've tested since Joe Miller died in 2010. I believe all their poppers are pentyl(amyl) based, but I'm not positive.

I receive no money for this review. I am so grateful I no longer have to mess with chemicals and endure lots of variation in order to have a little fun.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 15:00...

I don't know if Lockerroom is bottling n-pentyl(n-amyl) nitrite or isoamyl nitrite...or a mixture of both. They do not have identical properties, which is why it's important to know what's in the bottle. But I feel confident that the Lockerroom poppers I have tested are amyl based.

Also, since I believe there are added additives/odorants and preservatives in these poppers, it's more difficult to identify the chemical by odor alone. Also, any additives may impact effects...for example, slow down or extend the effects.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 15:28...

I just hit the bottle really hard....taking long extended frequent whiffs. It just got better and better with ZERO side effects.

Pentyl/amyl is for those who can't/won't tolerate side effects and don't mind taking long, extended whiffs. It's exactly what I want, so it's a win win for me. For those who prefer a huge immediate rush(along with any side effects) this product might not be satisfactory.

JJ89 said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 15:43...

What’s the name of the popper that u described?

Billy said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 16:09...

Pentyl gave me the worst side effects after isopropyl.

Anonymous said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 16:14...

Fake Locker Room knock-offs contain amyl nitrite. You got copies, the originals are not amyl.

R. Don said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 17:04...

Does it start with a strong pulse in the head, followed by rapid heartbeat and then a smooth warm long lasting rush to the head ?

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 17:16...

@Billy....was the product Lockerroom's Delta, BC? and did it say pentyl nitrite on the label? There are fakes. You can't make a proper assessment without being pretty sure of what you're trying.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 17:23...

@R.Don. The Lockerroom's are as I described. They don't hit fast and hard and you have to take a lot of long repeated hits in order for the effects to keep growing to the place you want to sustain them. If you want constant ass relaxation for example with a greater and greater "transported" sensation, then you might have to resort to constant whiffing. That's what I did and that's what I had to do sometimes with poppers in 2008-10.

R. Don said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 20:08...

The bottle hissing upon first opening !!!
That takes me back to the Golden Years !!!
Must be good stuff....

Here be dragons said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 21:32...

just normal poppers from Europe + purple prose...Tears of Joy!!!..this dude is two sandwiches short of picnic...

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 21:57...

@Dragons...Lockerroom is NOT available OTC in the USA...hence it took awhile for me to take a chance on ordering overseas.

Billy said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 05:51...

Hey NitriteSpecialist, my experience with pentyl/isopentyl/isoamyl relates specifically to the bottles I had from Poppers-Aromas around 2015-2018.

The bottles I used most were "Radikal Rush" and "Titanium" which came in 25ml aluminium bottles. Sometimes also "High Rise" in a tall glass bottle.

The high was quite good, but the side-effects were bad indeed. Anxiety to the point of dissociation, panic attacks, shortness of breath, congestion, etc.

Wish I hadn't done them!

R. Don said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 09:10...

Billy: Yeah, I tried 'Radikal Rush' from Poppers Aromas too, about 5 years ago. Definitely bad after effects! They stopped selling it, i wonder why ?

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 12:24...

@Billy and R.Don....Those weren't Lockerroom poppers so I can't comment on them or speculate much, except to reiterate that after making poppers for 10 years, the amyl group has by far the least side effects for me personally. Isopropyl is the worst....followed by the butyl group....and amyl has rarely made me hate poppers and that was likely due to impurities.

R. Don said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 14:48...

I never had breathing problems with Butyl, I certainly do with propyl.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 15:06...

@R.Don the breathing problems may have more to do with acidic impurities. Nitric acid is certainly a likely acidic impurity that can be present at bottling or may develop afterwards during the degradation process.

Billy said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 16:27...

I still think you should try the Artisanal Cleaners products.

The Professor said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 16:33...

Nitric acid is NOT a possible degradation product. You persist in this, we much makes me wonder why you so strongly cling to a falsehood

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 16:53...

Nitrogen dioxide plus water forms nitric acid. Nitric acid turns the skin yellow. You got yellow fingers or yellow burned nostrils...you got nitric acid. You got stingy around the nostrils...you got acid.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 16:55...

None of this home brew shit matters to me anymore. I have faith in Lockerroom.

The Professor said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 23:43...

@niteitespecialist:

Would a 'specialist' think that is even possible?

I bet you read it on Wikipedia or some such. There are many chemical equations that will yield nitric acid by the equation. What the equation won't tell you is that the energy required to get nitric acid is up in the 500 kelvin range and at about 7 bar of pressure.

nitric acid at room temperature and atmosphere is impossible.

Is that where you read that isovaleric acid is what causes amyl to angel like sorry feet? That's also wrong. Or where you read that nitrite acid concentration is maximum at 0 Celsius? Also wrong.

The Professor said on Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 23:45...

Of anyone sniffs nitric acid, it would damage their lungs. NO2 is nomos enough as a potentially harmful product, don't wish nitric acid on anybody

uinstitches said on Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 23:42...

Can poppers really cause yellow skin? How? 😬

The Professor said on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 at 00:23...

@uinstitches:

one of the reactants for making alkyl nitrite with the two phase liquid method involves the use of a powder called Sodium NitITE. If the NaNO2 is old and not stored properly, it can slowly oxidize to Sodium NitRATE, NANO3.

Sodium nitrate can turn your fingernails yellow from handling the powder.

@Nitritespecialist thinks that this can be cause by the yield decomposing into Nitric Acid, but that's not a possible degradation prodsuct (he likes to make things up or lie about them, it's hard to tell which).

He MIGHT be thinking that the product of acidifying Sodium Nitrite (HNO2) is nitrous acid (HNO2), so the product of acidifying Sodium Nitrate (HNO3) must be nitric acid (HNO3). This is incorrect because, although the formula does work, the conditions required to form HNO3 require much more energy than being usaed for Alkyl Nitrite synthesis.

Nitric Acid can be produced, but only at several times atmospheric pressure and high temperature.

Some of the degradation products of Alkyl Nitrites have strong, harsh aromas, but Nitric acid is suffocatingly caustic and instantly damages nasal passages and lung tissue; the lethal concentration (LC50) of Nitric acid is only 1 - 5 mg/l

The Professor said on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 at 00:25...

typos:

He MIGHT be thinking that the product of acidifying Sodium Nitrite (NaNO2) is nitrous acid (HNO2), so the product of acidifying Sodium Nitrate (HNO3) must be nitric acid (HNO3). This is incorrect because, although the formula does work, the conditions required to form HNO3 require much more energy than being used for Alkyl Nitrite synthesis.

Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 18:45...

All the pompous BS the Professor just unleashed doesn't change the fact that if the popper is stinging your nostrils or turning your skin yellow, it's got impurities in it. This isn't going to happen with poppers purchased from a quality conscious manufacturer like LRM in Canada.

The Professor said on Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 20:17...

@Nitritespecialist:

you can hedge all you want, but you have claimed, re3peatedly,m that the cause is Nitric acid; it is NOT, and if you had bothered to UNDERSTAND what I posted, instead of just reacting to it, you'd notice that I included the REAL reason why your fingers turn yellow.

Of COURSE stinging nostrils and yellow fingers are result of impurities; I hadn't said differently; this is the 'STRAW MAN' fallacy in logic; claim a person has said something they haven't, then condemn their speech for being wrong. Another Fallacy you engage in reflexively is MOVING THE GOALPOST, in which an already settled argument is perpetuated by constant shifting of the topic.

Popeye said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 09:11...

Where did you buy them from @Nitritespecialist

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 12:49...

Nitric acid generally reacts with proteins and forms yellow coloured nitrated products. This reaction is known as xanthoproteic reaction. Skin contains proteins that contain aromatic amino acids. ... And thus, the skin becomes yellow. Quote from Google contained above.

Anyone who claims nitric acid contamination is NEVER possible in poppers is a total fool and is doing nothing but spreading misinformation.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 13:11...

Here's a recent patent describing the synthesis of alkyl nitrites and some of the pitfalls. Notice the formation of nitric acid in particular.

A disadvantage of the process described in US Pat. No. 2,739,166, however, is that mixtures of alcohols and nitric acid are formed in the course of progressive reactions in the liquid phase, the concentration of the latter continuously increasing. This is not only questionable from a safety point of view, it must also be expected that increased by-product formation, in particular the formation of toxic and highly explosive alkyl nitrates. It is furthermore disadvantageous that the nitric acid residues obtained in the production of the alkyl nitrites contain at least unreacted alcohol, frequently also still dissolved alkyl nitrite and alkyl nitrate formed in side reactions and cannot be reused without expensive workup. In relation to the nitrogen dioxide used, this represents an economically unsatisfactory situation.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 13:18...

This patent clearly states that nitric acid can form as a side reaction in the synthesis of alkyl nitrites. It is by no means impossible. In fact, it is likely to be mixed with other impurities, notably the base, unreacted alcohol.

When poppers are made, this nitric acid impurity may not have been sufficiently neutralized. Also, poppers break down into nitrogen oxides, water and the base alcohol, including nitrogen dioxide, which upon contact with water forms nitric acid, which is one way ACID RAIN forms when smog, composed of nitrogen dioxides, contacts water in the atmosphere and on surfaces.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 13:29...

NO2 and other NOx interact with water, oxygen and other chemicals in the atmosphere to form acid rain. Acid rain harms sensitive ecosystems such as lakes and forests.

The above is a quote from the EPA site.

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 16:56...

You are confusing NO2 with nitric acid, again.

Yes, you'll find patents claiming it is a possible side reaction, you'll also find patents claiming perpetual energy, which is also false.

This is a reaction that involves reactants that really dissociates in the solvent (water). Not all compounds so that, nitric acid, for example. The specific heat of formation REQUIRES high temperatures and pressures.

Take a look at that psf file that contains a list of contaminants from a months old sample, a newly synthesized sample and a synthesized sample that had undergone photolysis.

NONE of them contained ANY nitric acid.

Only a fool huh? I guess you forgot sabot the three other fingers pointing back at you.

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 17:01...

Nsp said "
Nitric acid generally reacts with proteins and forms yellow coloured nitrated products. This reaction is known as xanthoproteic reaction. Skin contains proteins that contain aromatic amino acids. ... And thus, the skin becomes yellow. Quote from Google contained above.
"

Remember the disco where you proclaimed that isovaleric acid was responsible for the opposite in amyl nitrite?

I'm not claiming you can't read, I'm claiming you don't comprehend.

Yes, isovaleric acid had a similar opposite, but it, ALSO, is not a possible degradation product. The real culprit is butanoic acid, as I've said before, and you've ignored before.

There's more to chemistry than the formula! There's also energy requirements (temperature and pressure).

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 17:17...

@nsp;

Read that patent again,. Or clearly states the temperature (90C) and pressure ( 10 bar) requirements.

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 17:46...

typos: Remember the post where you proclaimed that isovaleric acid was responsible for the aroma in amyl nitrite?

I'm not claiming you can't read, I'm claiming you don't comprehend.

Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 19:18...

NO2, nitrogen dioxide gas, commonly evolves from an alkyl nitrite synthesis. It can easily be seen and looks brown and orange. Small traces won't be visible coming off the reaction pot. Yes....NO2 is very present in the birth of a popper. And NO2 and water forms acid rain and nitric acid. And it doesn't require intense heat or high pressure.

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 21:49...

The specific heat of formation of nitric acid from NO2 and H2O is 117 kJ/mol

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 21:52...

NO2 doesn't have to be a by-product of alkyl nitrite synthesis; keep the preparation antibiotic and cold; there will be NO evolution of NO2

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 21:54...

typo: keep it anaerobic

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 22:25...

1 joule of energy is equivalent to 1 watt second.

The survivors heat of formation of nitric acid from NO2 and H2O is 117kj / mol, or 117,000 watt seconds per mole.

The Professor said on Sun, 25 Jul 2021 at 23:21...

a typical house's circuit panel is 100 amps, or 12,000 watts

If one WANTS to create nitric acid from nitric oxide and water, doing so would require the entire household energy capacity for about 10 seconds (per mole)

Innocent bystander said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 04:21...

It's spontaneous when O2 is introduced.