amyl / butyl nitrite synthesis now & then

Topic created by randy
on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 01:25

randy said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 01:25...

My question is if anyone has succeeded in making the same late 1970s amyl nitrites. That made sex the nastiest horniest dirtiest 2222 minute sex that ever was. Id pay a fortune to have a bottle of that again. Reason i ask is this. I wa going to take chemistry to be able to make it. But if for reasons that it cant be duplicated as from the 70s. then ill give up the hope and dream of going any farther. thank you for your time take care

randy said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 01:26...

2 minute not 2222 minute

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 15:39...

I started poppers in 2008, so I cannot testify to what OTC poppers were like before that period. I have read where they evolved from really strong to much less strong. Since I had no point of comparison in 2008, I can't comment on "evolution" of OTC poppers before that period. But I can say Joe Miller's popper that were made until 2010 when he died, were strong enough for me. And they never gave me any unpleasant side effects, which is of paramount importance to me. I remember hitting them very hard, one whiff after the next, and I never felt side effects.

Now, after 12 years of making home brew, I have enough anecdotal evidence to at least have some plausible theories. First and foremost is the conclusion that the amyl group of poppers(n-amyl and isoamyl) will cause the least amount of side effects, especially with regards to unchecked lowering of blood pressure. The butyl group(n-butyl and isobutyl) are stronger BUT they are also more likely to cause a collapse of blood pressure that won't easily and quickly recover. Both chemical factory made isobutyl nitrite(TCI) and Sigma's n-butyl nitrite made my blood pressure cave, which was also true of my home made butyl and isobutyl nitrite. Now, the ideal popper is going to be the strongest one that won't cave the blood pressure under ordinary use. The poppers from the 70s were reportedly isobutyl and butyl nitrite. Both have their unique odors. IBN = nail polish odor. BN = deodorized locker room odor/plus banana(as it degrades). Isoamyl nitrite develops the nasty funky sock odor as it degrades. It may also have a funky camphor odor. N-amyl nitrite has a mild fruity odor and doesn't degrade into a nasty funky odor as much as isoamyl nitrite does.

Did the OTC poppers in the 70s cause a caving of the blood pressure if frequent whiffs were taken....more than would taken during a 2 minute fuck? If not, and if they were butyl or isobutyl nitrite, then perhaps is is possible to make and bottle these particular nitrites so that they don't cave blood pressure, but still pack a big punch. A gas analyzer is absolutely essential to solving this riddle because it's imperative to know the complete chemical composition of whatever popper is being tested when ascertaining both desirable and undesirable effects.

Bolt Lover said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 15:43...

To answer part of your question, you don’t need to take a chemistry class to learn how to make them.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 16:19...

Of those who had used poppers, 43 (78 percent) reported use of only
amyl nitrite, and the remaining 12 (22 percent) had used both amyl
and butyl. Among those using both, there was a preference for amyl
nitrite, which was regarded as being more potent and less associated
with side effects. No homosexual subject in our sample admitted to
having used only butyl nitrite.

The above is an excerpt from a Popper study from the 60s and 70s, where they queried users about their popper experiences. It's a small study, but it's interesting that those users are saying that amyl has less side effects. They also state it's stronger, which I'm not sure I would agree with. I would say amyl has ample strength.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 16:21...

Nitrite Inhalants:
Contemporary Patterns of Abuse
W. Robert Lange, Elizabeth M. Dax
Charles A. Heartzen, Frederick R. Snyder,
and Jerome H.Jaffe

The above is my source.

Anonymous said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 20:29...

Most likely the 1970's poppers was made of fusel oil, because it was and is easily available. Perhaps there was no different alkylnitrites like butylnitrite and amylnitrite but only different labels and some product were sold as amyl and some as butyl. But most likely all products with little variations because of variation of fusel oil was alkyl nitrite mixture, in which about 70 % was isoamyl nitrite and there was isopropyl nitrite and butyl nitrite and cyclohexyl nitrite too and isomers of those and something else. And I think that the products were not well purified. And because of isopropyl nitrite and butyl nitrites the product was strong. Isopropyl nitrite work as adjuvant for amyl nitrites.

A long time ago (over 100 years) it was noticed, when pure isoamyl nitrite was learned to synthesize, that pure amyl nitrites are not very effective for most people and not even in medical amyl nitrite has not been pure isoamyl nitrite always but mixtures have been developed.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 21:01...

I don't know what the exact chemical compositions of the 70s and 80s poppers were.....but I just hit my 3 day old n-amyl nitrite, which has had plenty of exposure and I thought at first....hmmmmmm.....a little weak....but after a series of steady hits, after 5 to 10 minutes, I was totally under the influence, ass gaping, mind altering and ready for an extreme scene......and all that without one little bit of a bad side effect.

So....I would describe n-amyl nitrite as a controlled, steady rise to a sustainable all encompassing high that doesn't lead to a bad come down or plunging blood pressure that won't recover.

NitriteExpert said on Wed, 22 Dec 2021 at 21:34...

I would describe n-Amyl nitrite as a slow hint of things that may come, but never arrives no matter how many hits I take. The thing can't build in potency if your body is working right. It's just a tease.

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 18:52...

Read Charlie's experience with home brew. He made butyl nitrite that made him feel unwell, even after being tutored extensively by Thomas the Professor. I warned everyone, but the Professor keeps downplaying the additional risk associated with both the butyl and isopropyl group of poppers.

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 18:54...

I would strongly suggest that anyone who thinks n-amyl nitrite is weak...has NEVER had good amyl nitrite. If it stinks of camphor or funky bitter shit...it's NOT good.

NitriteExpert said on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 22:08...

Oh look, a pretty bird!

You can hallucinate all you want, and try to distract people with some Thomas the tank engine bullshit and bitter fruit or whatever, but we all know you aren't the real guy anymore.
Seriously guys? This asshat claims that the world has been doing it wrong for decades?

How about the world has been doing just fine, sand you are a know nothing with paranoia issues blaming some invisible demon for your own lies.

Be gone vile beast

Or make something up that has a chance of being true

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 24 Dec 2021 at 22:13...

Wow....that was just useless, meaningless BS serving ZERO purpose.

NitriteExpert said on Fri, 24 Dec 2021 at 23:22...

Of course you'd say that when you don't understand that because of your idiocy.