Update on LRM's pentyl

Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 15:51

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 15:51...

My recent assessment of my purchase of 3 - 30 ml JJ Black bottles is somewhat mixed. The third bottle was stored in the frig and upon opening, it gave a fairly strong hit, but was not particularly pleasant, nor was the odor very agreeable. I added Kcarb and MS4 for a few days, but didn't notice much improvement......so I just dumped the 30mls into brine/baking soda and shook it vigorously. I did 3 cycles.

I dried on mag sulfate and then placed into dry bottle with lots of Kcarb/MS4. 24 hours later and there's a much improved odor and effects.

So....I had to wash out the impurities that were causing off odors/effects and then wait at least 24 hours to notice a marked difference. I also shook the contents periodically to stir up the Kcarb/MS4.

Still....not loving how I have to modify an OTC product.

Nitritespecialist said on Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 19:02...

It's not looking/smelling good. All 90mls are dead now...less than a month later. The last bottle died after washing/drying. So....extreme variation in LRM's poppers is evident and therefore they are not on par with Joe Miller's poppers.

The Professor said on Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 19:53...

you DO know that drying with magnesium sulfate accelerates alkyl nitrite decomposition?

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 14:51...

It's been about 4 days since I washed my LRM pentyl nitrite. It's now much better than it was originally. I don't know what's changed. It's definitely more volatile smelling...with a bit of a sharp sensation in the nostrils at times.

So...similar to before, it can take 3 to 4 days of sitting on Kcarb/MS4 before it gets better. Odor and effects are better without question.

Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 16:17...

Drying with Magnesium Sulfate (MS4) only preserves the nitrite and keeps it fresh from degradation. Who are YOU to spread disinformation?

The Professor said on Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 17:05...

from https://patents.google.com/patent/US2927939A/en

"The presence of a dehydrating agent such as calcium sulfate or magnesium sulfate has also been found to increase rather than decrease degradation of the alkyl nitrite."

Charlie said on Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 20:05...

Is magnesium sulfate sometimes referred to as MS4, shortened from MgSO4?

Previously, I thought MS4 was referring to molecular sieve 4 Angstrom! I think I was confused!

The Professor said on Tue, 12 Oct 2021 at 22:54...

MS4 is molecular sieve 4 angstrom. MgSO4 is magnesium sulfate, ofte used as a macro level 'quick dryer', but not compatible with alkyl nitrites

Charlie said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 00:05...

Thanks Prof. OK, that's what I thought. I was confused by the earlier reference above to 'Magnesium Sulfate (MS4).'

The Professor said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 00:24...

That was either nitritespecialist (or one of his many aliases) or a fan of his, that is trying to discredit me; it's fun for some, evidently, to either try to discredit me or to purposely subvert a maker's DIY attempts

Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 14:00...

Same old impersonators.....I have nothing to say about any comments from the Professor...good or bad. It's all been said.

My washed LRM poppers are still much better 5 to 6 days after washing. I don't know exactly what has changed.

Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 14:21...

Regarding mag sulfate....the literature does say it seems to degrade nitrites faster....but this assumes traces of it are left remaining. It should be filtered away after it's used as a drier. Or...only use a bare minimum to suck up the bulk of remaining water. There will clumping and no cloudiness seen.

The Professor said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 16:11...

When you remove the curd mechanically, and since amyl nitrite is slightly water soluble, you are leaving mag sulfate dissolved in the Nitrite, and it accelerates decomposition

Charlie said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 19:44...

Speaking of drying & hoping you can clear something up on my mind.

When using the drying method of "96 hours on molecular sieves," should potassium carbonate be added AFTER the 96-hours of drying? If so, just so I know, what is the rationale of adding potassium carbonate after drying vs. during drying? ty

The Professor said on Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 22:30...

YMMV, but in my mind, k-carb is an agent that prevents gas buildup while in the bottle.

I only use it if I'm going to be at home and using vials (only opened for use) That way, the vials stay viable until opened (the k-carb acting like a pause button).

If I'm going to be travelling, I usually fill 30ml 'night stand' sized bottles with 10% w/v washing soda instead of 1% k-carb. the washing soda (or any carbonate really) acting like acid scavengers and neutralizing acids as the bottle is opened.

Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 13:11...

It's 10-16-21...a week since I last posted my update on JJ Black pentyl nitrite that I washed and have tested almost daily. It's still very active and more fun than ever. Slight odor...somewhat like cherries...wild erotic thoughts go ballistic. Huge ass relax.

So....everything I did seems to have worked very well. BUT it took at least 3 days of patiently waiting to see if it was going to work.

Rush Options said on Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 14:49...

**Update***

I received my order from Poppers Aromas about a week ago - 2 x 30ml Jungle Juice Black. Product seems to be legitimate Lockerroom brand after all of my research online and in this forum. Thanks to everyone for all of your feedback on ordering etc. It comes in it's own black box with the Delta B.C. address. When first opened, the bottled hissed. It definitely smells sweet, no harshness. I first tried using it directly from the bottle, whiffing it, but only a bit of an effect for me. Next day I placed a small piece of paper towel in a empty vitamin container, used an eye dropper and applied 1.0ml to the paper and placed the lid on for a minute or two. This was the magic solution! Wow, great experience for me. Thought I would share, as this made a huge difference in effect.
Question for the chemists out there:
Is it safe to use a plastic vitamin bottle for this?
Thanks!

The Professor said on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 00:17...

the brittle plastic (PET, most often found in thin walled water bottles) should be avoided

the more flexible, soft feeling plastic pill bottles are usually Polyetheylene, and don't produce noxious gases

Rush Options said on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 13:30...

@Professor - Thank you for the information and feedback!

The Professor said on Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 19:19...

no problem; enjoy!