Popchef's reckless advice!!!
Posted on Poppers Guide's Forum
Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 22:13
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 22:13...
Popchef/professor is offering reckless advice about how to manufacture a compound without any reliable and easy way to test the purity of that which has been synthesized in someone's basement lab. It is sheer recklessness to claim a chemical drug is so easy to make that it doesn't need to be QC'd and tested for purity along with any impurities BEFORE any human consumes it. It is sheer madness and woefully negligent that someone claims their method of production is so easy and so perfected that anyone can repeat it with high reliability each and every time and produce a compound that is highly pure. It's absolutely NOT possible to know what has been produced without proper testing equipment. It's also not known what all the various impurities in poppers will do in terms of making side effects worse.
The Professor said on Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 22:41...
complete fabrication, delusion, straw man fallacy, again...
you can assume that I don't QC my products, but you'd be wrong; my method yields triple nines purity (99.9%)
sheer madness? that doesn't seem to fit the bill.
What DOES fit the bill is lying deceitful crazy talk, then claiming it's what someone ELSE does...
I'm not the one who, on one hand, derides a guy for wanting to inhale generous amounts, but on the other hand, admitting that they inhale, continuously, and daily,m for hours at a time.
I'm not the one who falls to the floor, hoping for death, because he insanely tried to prepare a gas (ethyl nitrite), got a liquid (ethyl nitrate) and tried it ANYWAY, knowing that Ethyl nitrite greatly exceeds the activity of Nitric Oxide itself.
I am NOT claiming that a method i developed in conzsideration of the possible side-reactions is safe or easy, just that it works (and our wiki contqains appropriate safety protocols and warnings, as well as information regrading other alc ohols of interest (amyls, butyls, and propyls. I don't recommend anything above Nitric oxides reactivity (isopropyl, methyl, ethyl) or anything that is so low reactivity that it has to be huffed (n-amyl, cyclohexyl). although the wiki from popchef DOES cover any alcohol one might desire to try.
Impurities and side-reactions, that you continuously say are impossible to0 know, have been accounted for in my prep, and are mentioned in popchefs wiki, along with appropriate warnings and customization techniques; I'm NOT locking anyone in to any one destination, I'm very flexible in guidance toward what a USER might want, not myself.
So again, here we are, you babbling without end, desperately I might say, trying to invalidate a solid position with heresay, outbursts, false claims....it's exhausting.
readers note that ken has never directly answered a single question I have asked him, while I have addressed each of his fantasies with not only personal assertion, but third party, unbiased EVIDENCE.
Ken has no evidence
The Professor said on Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 22:43...
The Professor said on Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 22:50...
You MUST be thinking that an ad hominem attack MUST include profanity to be considered a fallacious argument.
NOT the case
ad ho·mi·nem: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
EVERYTHNIG ken says lately is pure ad hominem; attempting to discredit the source of data provided because of it's submitter
That's pure fallacy, cut-and-dried
The Professor said on Thu, 16 Sep 2021 at 23:01...
for those counting, this is the SIXTH post that ken has started because a discussion between himself and I became too uncomfortable for him.
A post between us typically ends wit me asking him to provide PROOF of an accusation, or I mention something he's said previously that illuminates his nefarious, deceitful character.
Instead of responding, like a man, he starts another round of the blame game, with another topic, that is infesting this forum with ad hominem allegations rather than useful advice
Charlie Chuckles said on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 at 07:07...
I really appreciate your presence here because I have learned so much from reading your comments. One comment can lead me to hours upon hours of reading and researching and it's very enjoyable to be learning something new about something I thoroughly enjoyed at one time -- but been far too disappointed with for far too long. I appreciate that you bring value to discussion.
Please excuse my naivete. This wiki that you speak of...is it located on that other BIG discussion website in a private room? Is it true that it's no longer active?
Recently, I tried to request admission, but maybe I won't hear anything if it's no longer active. If that's the case, do you have any advice for a humble and eager student looking for reading material? (I'm willing to try to teach myself if I have to, but I would prefer to heed the voice of experience and wisdom.)
The Professor said on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 at 15:20...
It's still active, with about 70 members , and yes, that's where popchef's wiki is.
There's still not a decision on how to decide if a member should be accepted, since Artisanal charmed their way in under the guise of a charming DIY individual, but turned out to be just another OTC greedy expletive.
Prior to that, all who asked were accepted; that's changing, but no moderator or owner has come up with a workable plan yet.
The Professor said on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 at 15:24...
In the meantime, I'm happy to answer any questions. the site was made private primarily to keep Ken Jones' out of the picture. His nonsense destroyed poppersplace, he was banned from the popperpigs subreddit, sand is in general obstructive to progress and learning.
I can muddle through on this platform, as long as you realize our conversations will likely be bombarded.
Charlie Chuckles said on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 at 16:50...
Thank you for filling in the question marks in my mind and thank you for the helping hand. It's clear that you offer sound and unruffled aid for this community and I feel grateful for the nuggets you have shared (that I have been able to find). I am sure that you can understand that it's hard for a novice to find information that is sound and reliable at this time - just in general - in this "post-truth era." It seems that I got serious about this and undertook a personal journey at a very interesting time.
The Professor said on Fri, 17 Sep 2021 at 16:55...
Yeah, willful ignorance is rampant
Canuck SB said on Sat, 18 Sep 2021 at 06:45...
Dude whats your beef with DIY,and dont you think adults could make grown up choices knowing the consequences?
If you didnt succeed its because you didnt put love in what you prepd.
The arguing solves nothing you should invest more time in doing what YOUR heart says is right for you.
I believe in motha fkn FREEDOM dont you?
As long as we all respect the Golden rule of life that is....
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 15:01...
@SB...I have no issue with DIY as long as all the pitfalls and risks are fully illuminated. I was OBSESSED with DIY for 10 years. I have a lot of experience with it. Some people can be easily conned into seeing just one aspect. That's why in the USA we had over 70 million people vote for Trump and the other 70 million voted blindly for Democrats as if they are somehow much more objectively honest.
And no...I don't think any person can make their own best informed decision WITHOUT being armed with the most important PROS and CONS. I'm the type of person who is driven to warn others of the unknown dangers of whatever situation I have experienced, especially when it's been fraught with peril. It's not about stroking my ego....it's about being a good human being who cares about others. If that concern is not well received, then so be it. At least I tried.
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 16:33...
trying to 'state your case' by insulting roughly half of the audience doesn't seem like a favorable tactic to me, morty.
Anyone can google this site for your screen name(s) and see for themselves the hypocrisy and deceit that you think is experience.
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 16:36...
hypocrisy, deceit, and healthy doses of
"talkin from both sides of one's mouth'
If you talk or speak out of both sides of your mouth, you say different and contradictory things to different people, so that people are left unsure or confused.
google him, see it in action for yourself
The Professor said on Sun, 19 Sep 2021 at 16:39...
hypocracy, deceit, ad hominem, rectio ad absurum, straw man, ALL fallacies which ken has demonstrated (and you can find for yourself here)
brings light to the old saying (and I don't intend this as ad hominem; if the shoe fits.......
"a wet turd doesn't hold its shape"
Poppers in Plano? said on Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 20:39...
Any guidance on where I can purchase would be helpful.