Made a 50 ml brew of NAN...6-26-2021
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Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Sat, 26 Jun 2021 at 16:34
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 26 Jun 2021 at 16:34...
Used the German method. First time I've made a brew this size in a long time, mostly because results were too inconsistent. So it will be very interesting to see how this method pans out.
During the reaction, I saw some orange gas develop at the beginning, but by the middle and end of addition, I saw none. The yield was high and slightly hazy yellow. The bottom layer was colorless and slightly hazy.
I washed thoroughly and dried. My first test was good. Low mild odor and expected effects....slight trance and strong ass relax. Nothing weird. Only stored on Kcarb...about 45 mls.
Will update as aging occurs.
40 mls muriatic(Menards)
48 mls one pentanol(TCI)
29 grams Sigma Aldrich SN
50 mls DW
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 26 Jun 2021 at 21:45...
It's been 8 hours since I made the brew....just tested it again for 10 minutes. Fucking incredible!!!! Mild non acidic odor. Total gaping ass relax with prostate buzz. Nips and ass - the primordial triangular pleasure zones. No weird effects. No noticeable side effects.....slight trance which wears off quickly. Will update later. It's looking real good so far.
Always Poppers. Everything Poppers. said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 01:30...
How do I get your stuff? Do you have an Etsy store? Ebay?
Canuck Sb said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 02:35...
Canuck SB stands for Canadian Slut Bottom@Nitritespecialist honestly would love pounding my ass sniffing your poppers all the while selfsucking my Cock if possible i would be a loyal customer!
Fastshoebox said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 10:22...
How come poppers are so weak..two years ago they would put me in a trance
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 13:44...
6-27-2021....24 hours old and tested one 10 bottle of the 50mls brew.
What can I say...OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. It's like nirvana....I'm ready...take me. It's almost sensory overload...with nips and ass on fire like can never happen naturally. But it soon dissipates after the last whiff...so it's always something to look forward to...next time.
Odor still is good...but I am keen to sense any development of acid...as I have not rewashed this brew. Only a small layer of Kcarb on bottom.
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 13:49...
@SB in Canada....I am still testing this German method. Been 3 months and 5 brews. I want to make sure it works consistently and the tell tale sign is longevity/shelf life. With Joe Miller's (PWD) poppers circa 2008-10, they didn't last more than 8-24 hours after opening. I think it was probably more like a few hours He probably didn't add Kcarb or anything other than AA, which absorbs water and not acids. He probably didn't want them to last long after opening....to increase sales obviously.
The Professor said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 17:26...
PWD Poppers didn't use potassium carbonate as an acid sink, they used Epoxidized Linseed Oil. ELO at 10% will not stabilize the yield, per se, but it will neutralize acid as it evolves.
PWD used ELO at 60% (making it now a diluent rather than a neutralizer)
ELO reduces the vapor pressure of the nitrite, making it just a slight bit less active, and once the bottle got about half empty it was mostly ELO and time to buy new.
That's the price you pay for wanting to sniff and store from the same bottle; the ONLY way to get away with that is to stabilize and add an acid sink of some type in large % that neitralizes on-the-go.
It's much preferable, IMO to store in one bottle in a refrigerator, take the bottle out only long enough to get to RT, then pour off a session's worth into ANOTHER bottle, container, sippy cuip, sock, mask, whatever.
Your nitrite, especially if it has no stabilizers, will last longer in a cool dark place (refrigerator), and it lasts longer again because it isn't diluted with acid sinker.
Poppershead said on Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 20:48...
do you want to sell some of the products?
would like to buy some.
do you have a email address?
Morty said on Mon, 28 Jun 2021 at 09:06...
Wow...@The Professor you know how PWD used to make their poppers? Was there anything unique in the process pre-2010? thank u. Rush, Hardware were the same, or different additives?
The Professor said on Mon, 28 Jun 2021 at 22:30...
@Morty; a poppers forum long ago had a member who worked at the PWD production facility; that forum is now defunct.
As we all expected, all of the stuff from Jay Freezer's company, Rush, were identical except for the aroma additive. When Joe Miller got ahold of Rush, it was the same, except for, evidently, Quiksilver; that one he had developed with the help of an Eli Lilly chemist.
I don't know what happened over at the Clifford Hassing's place, Lockerroom, but I bet the had a similar evolution.
Yes, they were all the same product, the were only 40% reactive, and AFAIK the forumla changes were all in response to liegislation that made the alcohol involved illicit. Amy became prescription only in 1968, or 1969.
Lockerroom and Rush brand were both Butyl Nitrite originally, then it became isobutyl, then cyclohexyl. then isopropyl as they chased legislation for loopholes, and the product became more 'ghetto' produced and full of toxic by-products
Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 15:16...
It's 6-29-2021, 3 days since I made my last brew. I poured off a sample after the initial wash/dry step and left it in the refrigerator at 45F stored under air only and on a layer of Kcarb. Tested today for the first time. I don't smell any acid...a mild nondescript odor is all. It has ample potency.
I have been testing several other pour offs, that I rewashed and added fresh MS4 and Kcarb. They still have a mild, non acidic odor and ample effects even with lots of air exposure and stored at RT.
So....safe to assume that the brew was a success. Also, one thorough wash/dry step and Kcarb alone seems to be sufficient - IF - the brew is stored in the frig and not exposed to air. If exposed to air repeatedly, a secondary wash/dry step may be necessary OR additional Kcarb.
Morty said on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 18:00...
@The Professor: never knew that! thank u for shining a light in a dark place.
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 19:29...
6-30-2021. Tested 4 day old NAN and it's better than ever...more mild, more pleasurable, more relaxing, more internal orgasmic delight...still mild, non acidic odor. Stored at RT on MS4 and Kcarb. I will test my mother brew in a few days. It's in the frig.
The Joe Miller poppers I bought in 2008-10 were fun, and didn't have any recognizable sweet or pungent odor. Nor did I ever get any noticeable side effects like anemia/low blood pressure. The only kind similar to that description is n-amyl or pentyl nitrite. IBN, IPN and even BN all have two common features....strong sweet odors and toxic side effects. I don't have a lab report on what was in the poppers I bought in 2008-10, so I can't say what was in them...only that they were far more like n-amyl than any of the others.
Some of the side effects I got from BN, IBN and IPN are ringing in the ears, disturbed vision, loss of coordination(feeling staggering drunk), loss of speech coordination(slowed and difficult speech), anemia(fatigue/blue skin) and the worst of all....blood pressure so low it won't support life. At that point, I get sick and have to stop before I go into cardiac arrest.
Now...either Joe Miller was somehow drastically reducing the toxic potency of IPN, BN or IBN along with their strong recognizable odors, or he was in fact bottling something other than those nitrites in 2008-10.
Fast forward to today, and I often hit NAN, sometimes 4 to 6 times a day and rarely do I get noticeable side effects. The few times I did, I suspect it was due more to impurities from bad brews than to the pure nitrite itself because the effects were never as good.
shortie said on Wed, 30 Jun 2021 at 20:43...
That's great news but where can we buy them in the uk. Only shit stuff here. Share the pleasure!!
Mam said on Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 06:28...
"Yes, they were all the same product, the were only 40% reactive"
Please could someone explain what % reactive means. 40% is good, bad, normal, and what is the optimum % that needs to be achieved, if higher % are desirable.
As far as I knew amyl nitite was traditionally made in Canada, not just by Locker Room Marketing, but also by other smaller manufacturers. The divide being USA butyl, Canada amyl. Nitritespecialist has conjectured before that Joseph F. Miller's production in Indiana contained amyl - possibly as a mix. Apologies in advance if I got this wrong. It was always said that this signature "Power Pellet", or bottling tech, was the reason for PWD's previous celebrated status. Now it seems legislative pressures created a poor quality hybrid?
These questions have plagued discussions for years, if there is a definitive answer I am surprised. I admit I thought that many of the complaints were based upon memories of youthful euphoria, not chemistry.
Thank you kindly
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 16:21...
@Mam...I think the 40% figure means only 40% of the bottle contained active ingredient. The pellet was activated alumina, a desiccant. Epoxidized linseed oil(ELO) is a preservative that acts as an acid sink. It's a yellow oily substance. Linseed oil has a distinctive odor like oil paint, but I don't know if ELO has a similar odor. If it had a linseed odor, I would doubt it was in the poppers I bought OTC because that odor is something I am very familiar with....I have used modified linseed oil many times.