Amyl nitrite mixed with "1-Butanol 3-Methyl" cas 123-51-3

Topic created by moritz
on Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 13:31

moritz said on Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 13:31...

Because of this great guide: http://poppersguide.com/forum/10877
I tried to find Amyl Nitrite Poppers and bought "Rush Ultra Strong" (https://www.poppersking.eu/product_info.php?products_id=4740&language=en)

Now i see on the bottle "Pentyl nitrite mixed isomers" and it seems to also contain "cas 123-51-3".
First question what is this and what are the effects of this? Is this good?

If you search for this exact number in poppers shops you'll find many that mix cas 123-51-3 and CAS - 110-46-3.

Is there a source/product/brand (in europe) to get "clean" CAS - 110-46-3?

Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 14:24...

It's pretty easy to look up CAS numbers. 123-51-3 is isoamyl/isopentyl alcohol. It's not the popper/nitrite. Most poppers will have some base alcohol in them, especially as they degrade over time. I am not certain if the presence of alcohol hastens the degradation of the unstable nitrite or not. But typically impurities, unless they are chemically inert and serve some useful purpose, are NOT helpful to longevity. For instance, a molecular sieve placed in a liquid nitrite doesn't react chemically with a nitrite, but does absorb water and certain other molecules. Acid and water are definitely undesirable popper impurities that hasten degradation and negatively impact effects.

moritz said on Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 14:39...

thanks for quick reply,

do you have an idea what could be the (desired) effect here? Could it be that this alcohol is there due to the reaction to synthesize the popper? And it is just to hard/ expensive to get it out?

Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 17:11...

I don't think the base alcohols have a positive effect. Some alcohols have a narcotic effect when inhaling/drinking, but I never get any pleasant effect from sniffing any of the primary popper alcohols straight out of their reagent containers.

If there is alcohol present in a popper, I think it's an unintended impurity either left from the original synthesis, or developed later, as the nitrite degrades.

Washing the base alcohol from the crude popper is not easy as they generally are not very water soluble. Distillation would work since the boiling point of the alcohols is much higher than the nitrite itself.

moritz said on Wed, 10 Mar 2021 at 10:01...

thanks for your detailed answer. but now one important question remains: is there a source of "clean" amyl poppers?

(i meanwhile i tried the one in question here, and there are effects to my lung that i don't like - cough and the feeling that i need more deep breath to get the same amount of oxygen).

Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 22:29...

@Mortiz.....the only clean poppers should be USP grade amyl nitrite available for cyanide poisoning. It's typical isoamyl nitrite. In the USA, only James Alexander in NJ makes it. Maybe you could beg your doctor to write a script? Or find an emergency aid kit that has some in it and sort of...slip it into your fingers???It's rarely if ever used for angina now so most drug stores probably won't have it.

All the common nitrites have similar effects. One is the sudden sensation of needing to breathe harder. Though similar, the different nitrites are NOT identical in effects. Some are stronger in certain effects...weaker in others. I prefer the amyls largely because they don't tend to cave my blood pressure even with frequent hits and the odor is more mild....UNLESS you get a degraded one.

Anonymous said on Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 13:49...

thanks for the hint! it seems to be available in swiss:

https://kirchenfeldapotheke.quatron.ch/de/amyle-nitrite-inhalant-usp-12-amp-03-ml

i did not try to order, but i guess this is the best popper you can get.