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Topic created by sb
on Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 23:12
sb said on Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 23:12...
Want to buy isobutylnitrite. I found bulknitrites.com, but they have only 1 liter containers. Too large, given the fast decay of this substance. Any other suggestions ?
sb said on Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 06:43...
There are many Chinese wholesellers on Alibaba, but the minimum order is always 1 kg. How can I store such a quantity properly ?
Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 15:02...
@SB....buy some pentyl nitrite instead. Isobutyl nitrite caves the blood pressure too much and smells like nail polish compounds. Penty is sweet and fruity...and doesn't cave the blood pressure.
You may have to wash the pentyl in cold water and then cold brine/baking soda...dry on mag sulfate...and store in little bottles with MS4 beads and Potassium Carbonate. It will probably come with acid....as acid forms as it degrades. So you have to wash that out, dry and rebottle. Then it should last months if stored in the fridge and under inert gas.
Let me know how it goes. I was thinking of buying myself.
Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 15:56...
I checked out bulknitrites. It seems legit until you realize you can't contact them EVER. They say shipped from India, but then give some Norway address?
It's confusing and inaccurate about what they say regarding amyl versus isopentyl. Normal amyl, n-amyl, pentyl, n-pentyl and straight chained amyl are ALL the same chemical compound. They are 100% identical.
Isoamyl and isopentyl are chemically different from the above compound in how their molecules are arranged. This means they have somewhat different properties. Both n-amyl and isoamyl can be used for presription amyl nitrite.
Isoamyl/isopentyl, both identical, are less stable than n-amyl nitrite, which means they degrade faster into a foul smelling acidic, funky odor.
sb said on Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 21:34...
Thanks for your advice !
I have no experience in poppers manufacturing and don't intend to do this. My plan is to add some isobutyl nitrite to an off-the-shelf pentyl based poppers from Lockerroom. I believe older Lockerroom formulas, means a couple years ago, contained some amount of isobutyl nitrite, given how high I got from them. In particular I liked the "out-of-body" feeling and the tremendous orgasms with their products. Within the last years they reduced the amount of isobutyl little by little, not all products at the same time. Today all the magic is gone.
Is my plan feasible ?
Nitritespecialist said on Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 23:53...
@SB....both isobutyl and isopenty/isoamyl nitrite are similarly priced from the large chemical dealers. They are relatively cheap compared to butyl nitrite and especially n-amyl nitrite. You might try to get 100 mls from them via a retail middleman willing to send to you. There are some dealers willing to do this. What you don't want is some Ebay guy who stashes and repackages chemicals in his barn.
The commercial nitrites will probably have acid in them....and need to be washed for best effects. They are not meant to sniff straight out of the bottle. I found 95% butyl nitrite to be very toxic until I washed it. Then it smelled much better and eventually smelled like sweet bananas. When I left it open in my room for 10 minutes, I came back and was instantly hit with the odor of a locker room. It was strong and unmistakable I never smelled that before, so I probably never had 95% butyl nitrite before. It seemed to have adrenaline effects. I only had 25 mls so it didn't last long to really judge it thoroughly.
Isobutyl nitrite...I tested 95% IBN, which smelled VERY pungent and sweet like nail polish compounds. I didn't wash it and probably should have. It kept making my blood pressure cave.
Isopentyl nitrite...I tested 95% Isopentyl 500mls....it smelled a little fruity upon receipt...made me a little shaky...smelled somewhat acidic....and went bad very quickly despite adding some preservatives. I also bought 95% Isopentyl 100 mls. Upon opening it smelled funky and off. It had strong ass effects, but not much else. I added preservatives and a few weeks later, it smelled better, though not good, and had better effects.
I have yet to buy n-amyl because it's so expensive, but I am planning to.
The poppers I liked back in 2009 gave a nice surreal, dreamy, relaxed effect upon the first hits. I didn't feel that with isobutyl, butyl or isopentyl, but I have felt it a little bit with home made n-amyl nitrite.
Harry1950 said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 06:14...
@Nitritespecialist: Thank you very much for your extensive and detailed posts on the properties of various nitrite chemicals and comparisons between these chemicals, etc. I find your comments very informative and greatly appreciate this information, especially on which chemicals cause the blood pressure to cave.
During the past 5 years or more, I have been unable to purchase a popper product that provides me the same immediate, smooth, euphoric, and muscle relaxing effects of the best poppers I used in the 70's and 80's. Small inhalations of those popper vapors went a long way to help arriving at a very pleasurable orgasm.
From my user experience, real amyl nitrite has a very distinct odor or smell. I have purchased several products from P.A. eu advertised as "amyl nitrite", but these products do not smell like real amyl nitrite and they do not provide the same smooth and uephoric effects as real amyl nitrite. In addition, the label on these products/bottles identifies the chemical as "iso-amyl nitrite." I am still purchasing some of these iso-amyl products.
I am also currently using pentyl nitrite [ Jungle Juice Gold Label from Canada ]. Once again, it does not come close to providing the effects of the popper products I purchased in the 70' and 80's.
I have tried some butyl nitrite products. I do not like the odor and these chemicals do not provide the pleasurable effects I am seeking.
I tried RUSH back in the day. It had a very strong toxic odor and simply did not work for me. However, it was - to my knowledge - the most popular popper product on the market for many years.
If you plan to buy n-amyl nitrite, would you be willing to sell a few small bottles to me?
Thanks again for your detailed comments and observations !
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 16:10...
@Harry...thanks for the information regarding your historical experience with poppers. I never used poppers until 2008. I caught the tail end of Joe Miller's reign. There's so much confusion out there about poppers. A lot of it is because most popper users don't take much interest in what poppers are exactly. They just want some type of effect even if it's a "dirty" high. Others are chasing a type of high that doesn't exist - for example, taking a whiff of something that knocks you over, makes you feel good all over and doesn't have terrible side effects. Some say poppers have become seemingly "bad" because of the development of some sort of tolerance. I've been trying to make sense of it all, because poppers are the only recreational drug that I have ever used. I haven't been able to buy any good ones since 2010. I have resorted to making them, but it's not ideal since I can't test anything for purity and nothing I have made smells like what the chemical companies make, which makes me doubt the purity of my brews even more. I think it's a reagent issue because there is clearly an evolution over time of each successive brew. The older the reagents get, the more air/humidity exposure they receive with use, the more the brews change over time. They change in effects, odor and shelf life. The presence of impurities impacts effects/odor and so these impurities become yet another confusing issue. For example, when I first tested my 95% Butyl Nitrite from Sigma, it didn't have much odor and it gave me toxic effects within 5 minutes. I had to stop because my blood pressure was caving. I noticed my thumb was yellow, which was a sure sign of nitric acid impurity in the bottle. I washed the butyl nitrite and added sodium carbonate - it smelled much better, eventually becoming like sweet bananas, didn't turn my skin yellow and never again caved my blood pressure like it did originally. At this point, I don't know if I greatly reduced the purity/potency, or if the presence of nitric acid greatly increased toxic effects and changed the odor and when I got rid of it, the BN gave much improved effects.
100 mls of Pentyl nitrite is about 250 delivered.....steep. I don't know if I would share with anyone because I haven't tested the product to see what its properties are yet. I'll keep everyone informed.
Dave said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 20:03...
I got some jungle juice plus
It states pentyl nitrite 2- methylbutyl
Any info on this , so far no bad side effects but iv only used it couple times very light
It was brought from armoas eu
Dave said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 21:07...
Also does this effect eye sight or is that isopropyl nitrite that damages eyes ??
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 21:44...
@Dave....assuming your label is accurate.....you have a popper made with "active amyl alcohol" one of 8 isomers of amyl alcohol. I don't know the properties of either this alcohol or the nitrite made from it.
Active amyl alcohol is available and not very expensive. I cannot find the nitrite made from this available from chemical dealers.
What you have is more likely just isopentyl/isoamyl nitrite.
If you can...please describe the effects/odor over time. I stated earlier that I think the primary psychoactive effect of n-amyl nitrite is a relaxed, dreamy, receptive, wanton state of mind.....as opposed to a harsh slamming effect of the isobutyl/butyl/isopropyl.
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 21:45...
I read a report from the 70s that stated the yellow "spot" typically seen when using poppers is a symptom of low blood pressure.
Dave said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 21:54...
The smell is sweet and when using it kinda creeps up few seconds after inhaling and I get a warm and big rush feel hear in my ears feeling and very enjoyable
After feel a bit shaky for few mins but soon wears off but no headache or nausea
Dave said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 21:58...
No yellow spot haven't experienced that as yet and not much side effects
Isopropyl nitrite made me feel utter shit for hours and read what it can do to eyesight so I binned it and never used it again , it was from the UK
Is isopentyl/isoamyl OK for eyes as that's what I'm worried about after hearing horror stories
Dave said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 22:00...
That was meant to say big rush and feel heartbeat in my ears plusing 😆 nitritespecalist
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 23:37...
@Dave....When I was making isopropyl nitrite years ago, it made me feel like shit right away....caved my blood pressure. I think it's too toxic for poppers. It also made me feel fucked up...dazed, disoriented.
All poppers are basically sweet smelling since they are esters. Amyl tends to be milder and more fruity in odor. Butyl and isobutyl are much more pungent. Isobutyl does not smell fruity, but smells very SWEET, pungent, and like a chemical used for nail polish/removers. When it breaks down into isobutyl alcohol, it has a more bitter odor....somewhat comparable to bitter grapefruit. Butyl alcohol is sweeter, more like sweet rum. And butyl poppers have a strong sweet banana scent. Both isobutyl and butyl nitrite give me more side effects, so for that reason I don't want them.
The amyl poppers are not as likely to mess up your senses, but they can cause fatigue. I didn't get any side effects, except shakiness, from isopentyl nitrite. The home brew n-amyl nitrite I've made generally has effects that completely wear off within a few minutes after the last sniff, even after a series of big whiffs. My home brew amyl has had a range of odors probably indicative of impurities....piney, camphor(medicinal) to totally nondescript, to slightly sweet and fruity like Juicy Fruit gum. When it's off, it smells like bitter floral, a nasty flower. Isopentyl nitrite can develop a sweaty, nasty foot odor indicative of impurities.
When I get my factory made n-amyl nitrite, I will carefully assess its odor and effects. I am pretty sure it will be quite different from my home brew.
Dave said on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 23:51...
Great thank great info
Yh isopropyl nitrite is evil shit should be banned
And pretty bad for these sellers not explaining what this stuff can do
Now I know Google is a 90% utter crap what u read so why u came here to ask you a iv read alot of posts
Would u say pentyl is the best for side effect issues as like we stated we shake after and what would cause that any ideas
Now I'm not the one to go heavy at the stuff just to highlight sex with my wife which also enjoys
I'm just bit worried of there would be any long term effects with eyes
Sore throat etc I can deal with but when it effects eyesight than it really don't make it worth the hit if u get me
Dave said on Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 00:02...
If I brought a new bottle and when I receive it could I send it your way and do some testing on it
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 21:55...
@Dave....I couldn't do any purity tests on it. I do pay attention to odor, if it's acidic, if it stings my nostrils, if it turns my skin(thumb) yellow and I try to discern any recognizable odor, both when received and as it ages. I pay attention to any lung/throat irritation or signs of caving low blood pressure(weakness and displeasure). I determine effects first with the ass relax. If it doesn't relax ass, something is wrong/weak. Is there any euphoria? It should give a nice pleasant effect. Then I pay attention to any visual/sensory disturbances, especially after the last hit wears off. With amyl, I generally have no disturbances or lingering weird sensations. The rare times I do, I attribute them more to unknown impurities.
I wouldn't be overly concerned with visual problems with amyl. I haven't read any literature describing amyl nitrite as having a negative effect on eyes/vision. If you are experiencing any audio or visual weirdness lingering more than a few minutes after the last whiff, I would question the bottle and whether or not it's worth the risk.
Dave said on Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 23:29...
All seems good after no visual disturbances or anything
Yh def euphoria feeling
Felt very tired after tho
helx said on Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 14:42...
is a symptom of low blood pressure.
yes its true and many other things can cause this temporary pressure change in ocular fluid, some type of poppers will do it...i think iso-propyl. but if you are having these issues its not the causation of poppers but a health issue and don't use them and take some blood pressure med for general health too.