A question for @Nitritespecialist
Posted on Poppers Guide's Forum
Topic created by Joe
on Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 20:57
Joe said on Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 20:57...
So you seem to know a thing or three...
So far I have bought from the following :
-popperking.com: ( they supply the new PWD with the holographic lid) The stuff was not like the original PWD - you could smell the sharp metallic aroma of a bad brew ( too much nitric)
-pbyp.com.au : was absolute rubbish with no effect
-powerpoppers.com and buypoppers.net : once good now utter shite
-A few companies in the EU/France which were amyl but rubbish
So do you know of any company that actually sells decent stuff?
next i was thinking of trying junglejuiceplus.com...
What are your thoughts?
GaySwiss said on Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 11:31...
Yes Poppers Aromas sell Amyl bottles : Amyl Amyl Platinum Gate and Everest Titanium are my favorites
Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 14:55...
@Joe...that's the million dollar question. Is anyone making consistently good poppers like Joe Miller had? From what I have been reading, the answer seems to be no. Lockerroom in Canada has been in business for 20 years....and yet someone said their product wasn't good. But mind you, the manager told me on the phone that their product can be 100% faked, including the location of the maker. So any reviews of their product might not be legit Lockerroom.
My best theory for why poppers are difficult to consistently make is due to instability of both reagents and poppers. In the liquid phase method of making poppers, you have 3 main reagents, acid, sodium nitrite and some type of alcohol. All three can and will degrade over time, especially if they are exposed to air. Even a highly pure popper will degrade fairly quickly if not protected and if there is nothing to absorb newly formed acids, which act as a catalyst for faster degradation.
So, in the liquid phase method, you need a professional lab that does regular QC on both reagents and product. Ideally, QC should be done on each reagent right before using to make a batch.
Now, fractional distillation can be used to capture a pure product from an impure one containing multiple impurities, but that requires a knowledgeable chemist and setup.
The large chemical companies make "poppers", but sometimes they don't include a preservative such as potassium carbonate, and when they are opened, they smell of acid. They always produce a strong popping sound when they are opened. If they contain acid, they won't last as long and the effects will be quite different.
It really is a tall order to consistently produce an acid free pure popper. It absolutely requires a chemist to at least set up the process...and perhaps for troubleshooting and QC.
@Joe said on Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 19:03...
Keep in mind the new PWD is Isobutyl not Amyl! Popper King is insanely reputable you should try their house brand Sub Zero.