Micro Brews...personal use ONLY

Topic created by Nitritespecialist
on Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 17:49

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 17:49...

For those who love the popper effect but don't trust OTC suppliers, here's a basic recipe for making micro brews of 5 mls.

3.5 - 3.8 grams of Duda food grade SN placed into 8 mls distilled water with a touch of plain salt to help separate the yield as it forms

Add 5 to 6 mls one pentanol to this mixture and place in freezer.

Place 5 to 6 mls of 31% muriatic acid into freezer.

When all is ice cold, slowly drip the acid into the SN/alcohol mixture on moderate to high speed.

Harvest yield and wash several times in concentrated salt, baking soda solutions. Separate and dry yield with MS4, anhydrous sodium carbonate, potassium carbonate or mag sulfate. Place in dry bottle with fresh MS4 and/or a sprinkle of sodium or potassium carbonate(anhydrous).

The key is to get rid of all the acid and water or it won't last and effects with be muted.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 17:50...

I forgot the ice bath.....reaction glass should be surrounded by ice water as ice cold acid is slowly dripped into it.

Hong Kong Dong said on Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 18:00...

I knew someone once who was brewing their own poppers.
The explosion blew his head clean off.
CLEAN OFF....

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/327bbf59-b902-4213-9ec7-a9dc7d5a2119

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 19:58...

@Hong Kong...this is just for tiny brews using small amounts of reagents. I have made literally thousands of tiny brews over the last 10 years and no major mishaps. But it is important to not breathe any Nitrogen dioxide that might come off the reaction....performing outside is best...or at least exhaust the fumes under a stove hood.

Nitritespecialist said on Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 20:03...

That link is from a Dirty Harry flick with Clint Eastwood...nothing to do with poppers.

Drigger said on Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 04:01...

To clarify I have a couple questions.
SN = Sodium nitrate or Sodium nitrite?
Touch of plain salt = pinch of table salt?
Moderate/high speed in what?
What quantities of salt/baking soda solution? Can you elaborate on this step?
Separate and dry yield? Can you elaborate on this step?

Drigget said on Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 04:03...

Also, what is MS4?

Nitritespecialist said on Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 16:11...

Never use NITRATE. Only NITRITE.

The table salt addition was mentioned in a patent. It might not matter as HCl forms salt as a by product anyway.

Molecular sieves suck up water.

I would never use large amounts of reagents because there is far too much variation possible and if you screw up 500 mls of alcohol, you just wasted a lot of money on alcohol.

Only a professional lab should make large quantities of poppers. There needs to be a competent organic chemist used to set up a proven method and then there needs to be a competent chemist who can help troubleshoot inevitable problems that will occur. And there needs to be a reliable QC method to test batches periodically.

There is JUST FAR too much variation possible to make large brews, much less sell them for poppers. Remember, Joe Miller of PWD, used a chemist from Eli Lilly, where they made amyl nitrite, to help set up his business.

Bruce said on Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 22:25...

BTW, can ones use PH indicator paper to test whether stored poppers has degraded too much so better throw away than use ?

BobHoleness said on Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 11:59...

I reckon I'm going to give this a crack. Sick of OTC rubbish or paying silly money for a stale bottle of 'proper' poppers from the USA.

I saw another post somewhere saying that the acid (A) should be introduced to the other solution (B) using piping under the surface of B. I can't see that this would make a difference... any ideas? I think the main thing is just to add the acid s-l-o-w-l-y as it's an exothermic reaction.

Not that it makes a difference but is it legal to make your own alykl nitrites for personal consumption?