Any older guys still sniffing poppers?
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Topic created by hdbiker2000
on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 20:37
hdbiker2000 said on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 20:37...
I just started sniffing poppers at the age of 64. Wondering if older guys do poppers or is it just younger guys that do it. I get a cough from using Rush in the yellow bottle. Any poppers that prevent the cough?
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 22:35...
I'm 60 and started at age 49, in 2009. Let me tell you after Joe Miller of PWD died in Indiana in 2010, all USA made poppers became instant crap. I was buying Jungle Juice Real locally and JJ Platinum in the silver bottle. I never once got a bad bottle. I never got a cough. I never had any negative side effect. They were just fun in a bottle. Only complaint was they went dead within hours of opening. I bought 10ml bottles. I suspect they contained amyl nitrite, because, #1, I don't remember a strong odor as both isobutyl and butyl have strong odors, and #2, they never made my blood pressure cave, as do IBN and BN. IBN and BN can easily have impurities that make side effects way worse. I bought 95% BN from Sigma Aldrich...and within 5 minutes, I hit a wall of low pressure that prevented even one tiny additional whiff...for hours. I have purchased isopentyl nitrite twice, once from TCI and once from Alfa Aesar. TCI's came with a funky odor. And Alfa's preserved with KCarb smelled a tiny bit fruity when first opened but then turned to foul vinegar fish. Still, I never got sick from them...no caved bloood pressure. Normal amyl nitrite is the best...least odor, lasts longer without turning foul...and least side effects. Good luck finding it OTC.
Here be dragons said on Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 08:36...
When a nitrite is oxidized....what is the effect? I think this might be causing the cough. But i guess nitrites can also agitate the membranes. It never happened to me, so I was wondering about that.
>>>>>>I never once got a bad bottle.
There has been plenty of speculation about this. Could be: volume / turnover (PWD Indiana was the top dog in those days, maybe PWD USA still is). The best theory that I have read is: Miller invested in top-quality bottling equipment, thereby minimizing the risk of oxidization from ambient air and the resultant "bad bottle" - "bad bottle" is usually oxidization. It is not some inherent failing on the part of the specific brand. The other thing is these UK poppers (iso-propyl) are much more hardy than the softer, delicate aromas - less prone to degrade. But the effect of iso-propyl is not so good. So the more delicate fragrant (amyl / butyl) is more likely to degrade, that is just something that happens.
hdbiker2000 said on Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 14:50...
So opening the popper bottle cap causes the poppers very rapidly and thus causing them to go bad? Would storing them in a freezer help?
Nitritespecialist said on Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 17:07...
Oxidation....both primary reagents, the alcohols and the sodium nitrite are subject to oxidation and degradation. So poppers can be "degraded" and loaded with impurities as soon as they are made. Even a well made, highly pure popper will turn acidic as it degrades. Covering with an inert gas, using a dessicant, and perhaps an acid neutralizer will extend life. But nothing helps if the popper is too impure the second it's bottled.
Hadenoughofsuppliers said on Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 04:38...
I've been a regular user since the late 1980s.
A few years after the nasty isopropyl blinder was made the only legal popper, I started making my own because I didn't want to go blind and found it to be disappointingly weak.
I now regularly use my own isobutyl "just like the good old days" (but better) nitrite.
I've been doing this for about three years and I'm in my 50s.