tomrockets poppers review
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Topic created by edimmax
on Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 20:30
edimmax said on Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 20:30...
Anyone have any experience with poppers on tomrockets.com site? Its european site (i think german or austrian) and they have so many poppers from US, CA, FR, NL, UK but for some reason i think that many of them are fake, i mean they are not produced in those countries, they just put some famouse brands on the bottle. You cant sell many of US brands here in EU but they have them and for really cheap price..
anyone have any experience with them? from where are all those poppers they sell and mark as US, CA, NL and so on... ?
Canarias said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 12:39...
I have bought several times from them. My experience is mixed:
- very fast delivery
- the labels seem to be correctly declared. The Rush brand is from "PWS Factory S.L., Luxembourg, Postbox...". The Isopropyle bottles have a skull (toxic warning). The pentyle/amyle brands have a St. Andrew's cross which is correct.
- they deliver from a German anonymous address ("Rücksendezentrum Mährlein".
- officially they are UK based. Domain is Panama registered.
- their customer opinions are fake. The product reviews are positive only. The eKomi review website review does only permit 5-star ratings.
- their Jungle Juice Gold caused eye injury to me. I asked them to look into that, that their isoproylenitrit poppers are dangerous. They do not care. The replys are just inhuman ("I hope you have a very relaxed afternoon".
- I ordered in total 7 bottles from different brands, and 3 of them arrived with spillage.
Canarias said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 13:17...
This is what is written on their red "Rush" bottle (small):
BP means boite postal and is a postbox
The postal code 2025 does not exist in Luxemburg.
The phone number is from London.
So it is probably a fake product.
Canarias said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:06...
In the buisiness register of Luxemburg there exists a company called "P.W.D. sàrl" in 9, Rue de la Chapelle, L-8017 Strassen (Société à responsabilité limitée which is like a Ltd.) with a alias name "Parcel World Distribution sàrl" and with a buisiness purpose "46.750 Großhandel mit chemischen Erzeugnissen" (wholesale of chemical products) and its boss Etienne Serret and between 1 and 10 employees. However, on the Rush bottle, the company is called "PWD S.A.", (Societé anonyme, = corporation with public stocks and PWD without dots). There is no "PWD S.A." in Luxemburg in the RCS (Registre de Commerce et des Sociétés)
Canarias said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:18...
9, Rue de la Chapelle is a typical luxemburgish residential house in Strassen with 24 flats. There is no wholesale buisiness of chemical products.
Canarias said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 14:31...
Tom Rocket is incorporated in 170 Edmund Street Birmingham B3 2HB, UK. It has a single controlling person who controls 100% of its shares. His name is Mister W. Weidmann. They have 1 employees. The company operated at a loss in 2017 and 2018 (in 2018: loss 61704 GBP)
edimmax said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 15:38...
Thanx Canarias for all this information!
The same adress in Luxembourg i have found on two poppers from french poppers-aromas.eu site -
Adler 10ml - with Pentyl Nitrite Mixed Isomers (CAS 110-46-3), 1-Butanol, 3 Methyl (CAS 123-51-3)
Jungle Juice Platinum 24ml - with Isopropyl Nitrite Mixture, Isopropyl Nitrite (CAS 541-42-4), Propan-2-OL (CAS 67-63-0)
The adress is:
PWD S.A. LUXEMBOURG
BP585, L-2025, LUXEMBOURG
I dont like any of this poppers
Anonymous said on Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 16:24...
I found two more with the same adress in Luxembourg, one of them is the most famous poppers-aromas.eu poppers - "AMYL" (big black bottle). Most of the guys says thats one of the best poppers for them, for me is just OK but nothing really "WOW"
AMYL 24ml - with "Amyl Nitrite" Mixed Isomers (CAS 110-46-3), 1-BUTANOL, 3-METHYL (CAS 123-51-3)
the second one with the same adress is:
Jungle Juice Gold Label 10ml - with "Amyl Nitrite" Mixed Isomers (110-46-3), 1-BUTANOL. 3-METHYL (CAS 123-51-3)
Jungle Juice is also from poppers-aromas.eu
To be honest i would like to found some poppers from diffrent company. So far i have tryed from:
SkyLine Worldwide UK LTD, UK
34 South Molton Street, London W1K 4RG
Indigo Diffusion Ltd, UK
235 Vauxhall Bridge Road, London SW1V 1EJ
PWD S.A. LUXEMBOURG
BP585, L-2025, LUXEMBOURG
SARL MEN'S, FRANCE
60 AV P.Auguste 75011 Paris
JT Lockeroom, Canada
Lockeroom Marketing Ltd, 202-590 Eburi Place Delta, BC, VRM 6K7, Canada
Canarias said on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 10:17...
Originally, Tom Rocket Ltd. was owned by Brudo Gemünder Verlag, a recognized publishing house of gay books in Berlin. The parcels are still sent from Berlin, a questionable business practice, because selling Poppers in Germany is a crime (but buying is not, so you can buy legally from abroad).
Bruno Gemünder sold the Poppers eventually and in 2018 everything belonged to Mr. Weidmann. They now sell largely "counterfeit" products from the Rush brand: according to "neverfakeit.com" they do not have a license from PWD USA. However, PWD USA is no longer the same PWD which marketed the Rush brand after the death of its founder.
As far as I know it is in the EU illegal to sell hazardous chemical goods (leather cleaner, room odorizers) without indicating a valid manufacturer and emergency contact on the bottle. As far as I can judge, all the Luxemburg Poppers line can be banned by EU from the market at any time because "PWD S.A.. 2025 BP Luxembourg" is a fake address and "PWD S.A." does not exist. Probably a simple phone call to the EU chemical substances agency would do (they already banned french butyl poppers because butyl cannot be sold to the public as a proven carcinogen under EU law).
SkyLine Wordwide UK is controlled by SkyLine GmbH Vienna, Austria. They are fabricating their own poppers. The high tribunal auf Austrica ruled in 2012 that it is illegal to SkyLine GmbH to sell "Leather Cleaners" or "Room odorizers" to the public because in fact their products are used for human consumption and lack the pharmaceutical license required for it. However, SkyLine GmbH decided that this ruling only applies for Austria, so they sell their products now by mail to Germany and Switzerland, and Austrians buy from Tom Rocket, officially UK (but in fact Berlin, Germany).
Indigo Diffusion Ltd UK is controlled by two french businessmen from Rennes, France. It is the only business with true distribution addresses in Rennes (the same business men own various companies which produce and sell the Everest Poppers line in their shops poppers-aromas.eu and their many language clones.)
Everest claims that their product has a purity of 95%, and the Australian control body has actually analyzed their Everest Premium and certified that it contained mainly isoamylnitrite (https://www.tga.gov.au/testing-alkyl-nitrite-poppers). However the purity claim can be just a commercial gag, even Everest does not have any pharmaceutical certification, so it can contain harmful impurities. But the fact that there is a business in a real address with real owners adds a bit of confidence.
That's a general problem in Europe - there is no certified pharmaceutical grade isoamylnitrite on the market and every product can contain harmful impurities.
Here be dragons said on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 22:42...
Those are distributor names, Canarias. The manufacturer (another entity altogether) is not listed. It seems you do not know who that is? I would also say that the information (and speculation) that you make is based on database research. You are not privy to private contractual information regarding individual brands, and how they are distributed in different markets.
" However, PWD USA is no longer the same PWD which marketed the Rush brand after the death of its founder."
That is correct. So you are being fair. Do you know the story there maybe?
Nitritespecialist said on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 at 22:47...
The Australian control body did find ONLY "isoamyl" nitrite in the European bottles labeled to contain "amyl or pentyl nitrite". I don't think they searched for any major or minor impurities. Isoamyl/isopentyl nitrite become very foul/vinegary after they degrade. If you do a spot price check on TCI, Fischer or Sigma, you will see that isomers of amyl nitrite are far less expensive than Pentyl or N-amyl nitrite. Probably because they aren't as stable or effects as good. I assume that any popper distributor just buying a ready made large quantity of isoamyl nitrite will be looking for the lowest price....and that would be isoamyl nitrite and not amyl/pentyl nitrite. Normal Butyl nitrite is pricier as well, but not as much as normal amyl nitrite. Isobutyl and isopentyl are similarly priced. Normal amyl is the best....most stable, least odor, and best effects without causing a collapse of blood pressure.
Anonymous said on Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 14:00...
The way this company is working is typical for every poppers producers or sellers.
They are officially British but in really they are working in Austria or France.
I think there is no fake in these companies.
About purity of poppers: Alkyl nitrites are easy to product and the product which is got is pure enough (70-98%) for human consumption without any purification and the is no possibility that alkyl nitrites do contain any harmful impurities and that's because of procedure.
Here be dragons said on Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 13:03...
I agree with you, Anonymous. But people have strange ideas. We live in a world where personal opinion = fact.