Mask vs Bottle = No Contest
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Topic created by wtfchuck
on Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 17:37
wtfchuck said on Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 17:37...
As far as sniffing directly from the bottle? I understand from a practicality point of view. But, if you want the best trips, who doesn't? You NEED to get a mask (link to mask schematic and instructions within this thread...) and experience Vapor delivery from a mask design. Just make SURE you are NOT using any plastic materials which will come in to contact with the Nitrites and become toxic.
Please ONLY use HDPE, LDPE, PEX (polyethylene) type materials, do NOT use PVC, or PET type plastics!! Also, a glass jar, not a child's 'sippy' type cup as you might see many ill informed users raving about. Glass as a container to hold and a design that allows fresh air to enter the chamber, flow over the dosed cotton pads and deliver the Nitrite Vapor more potently and efficiently. I have a couple of designs, this is the best I have and the materials needed (Glass Bottle) can be found on Amazon, or directly from within the pdf (blue links to 'Rubber Fun').
Here is the mask link - https://gofile.io/d/giZq5F
As far as sniffing from a bottle, versus a mask...
it's all about the headspace above the liquid. The liquid has a vapor pressure, which is very low, so it won't build up very much after the headspace fills with vapor.
If you dose from the same bottle that you store in, not only are you destroying your remaining nitrite with oxygen and water vapor, you also are NOT getting a comprehensive 'hit'. The headspace will clear within the first second, and after that, no matter how long you inhale, you are only sniffing a very small amount of vapors being emitted from the liquid (a typical nitrite's vapor pressure is only about 1/3 atmospheric pressure).
A larger container, bottle or cup, with a nitrite soaked cotton ball allows the vapor to fill more space; this doesn't take hours; just a few minutes, and the 'hit' is quite a bit more powerful than just sniffing from the bottle.
There are several variations of this theme; the most important aspect is to provide a suitable container (LDPE, HDPE or polyethylene, not PET or PVC). A secondary consideration is to produce cross flow of the air steam, so as to promote the vapor buildup by drawing air across the nitrite.
Tiger said on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 14:17...
I read online the ‘sock method’ which I find really intense and always use it. Agree from the bottle the hit is so small.
The sock method is basically pull a sock inside out into a ball. Hold one end of the sock on the bottle and tip upside down for a second. Then the dry end put between your teeth. (And your partners). Your hands are free and you get a great consistent hit while fucking/bating.
Tiger said on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 14:18...
Just re read that. When I say and your partners. Have a sock each, not trying to bite down into the same sock haha.
wtfchuck said on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 15:43...
Interesting method and I would suggest using clean socks... although I have heard mention of certain Nitrites smelling a bit like a men's locker room, but I digress.
Anonymous said on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 17:19...
With sock method there is always the posibility to put your lips on the wet side af the sock. You must be careful and always easyly mark the wet side (2 colored sock etc) .I dont like thiw method because you cannot speak and the room smells for hours
Bottle rocket said on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 17:40...
I am an occasional sock user, although I feel the juice dissipates over a session. I am realizing now, do you guys inhale through your nose or mouth with the sock. I had understood to mouth inhale, but maybe it could also work to move the sock to the nose and inhale that way...
I think my favorite way is dipped q tips in empty plastic water bottles. Lots of head space. I like the plastic because you can squeeze the air up...and I heard that plastic doesn’t react. Glass seems like it could be a good alternative, although you lose the squeeze factor.
I’ll have to look into this mask setup, though. Seems like a good alternative.
sugarplum said on Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 21:49...
Anyone who doesn't have a reckless disregard for their own safety and wellbeing? Sock method and cigarette method etc are equally dangerous.
Foolish beyond belief!
wtfchuck said on Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 12:50...
You speak before you have the actual facts. The 'mask' is NOT something you wear the entire time, like a gas mask. Instead, you simply inhale from the 'mask' and set aside... until you are ready to take another hit.
I did refer to the historical post you cited and in reading through it I became aware that you had contributed to that discussion and the context is nothing comparable to what I am speaking of here. You speak of being at a party where a party goer was wearing a mask and inhaling ethyl chloride. So, for one thing, did I ever mention inhaling 'ehtyl chloride', let alone wearing a mask full time to do so?
Copy and paste the link I already supplied - https://gofile.io/d/giZq5F
You will see 2 versions of masks presented, the 2nd one being something akin to what you speak of. But, I never mentioned that 2nd version of masks. I only spoke about the 1st version with the glass jar and defined why this method is superior to bottle inhalations. Even then, the person who designed both versions of masks presented within the linked mask pdf schematic explicitly warns anyone considering that 2nd version of masks against potential dangers with that design.
Your quotes from the post you cited for the benefit of others... "oh wow I remember some crazy scene in the 1980s where a guy stuffed a popper soaked rag in an old World War 2 gas mask too! it was at a pretty wild party but i gave the guy a talking to after then....he produced a can of ethyl chloride. i told the host to eject him and got shown the door myself! irresponsibility and poppers go hand in hand! it seems that some guys are stuck in a loop seeking more and more intense pleasure. Use responsibly or expect legislative responses. i am not even too sure about all this "gay identity" and poppers idea - like it is even homophobic to speak negatively about the brown bottle. Mask = don't. Thank you!"
Nitritespecialist said on Sat, 19 Sep 2020 at 18:31...
I can't comment on safety issues related to how nitrites are inhaled. I started using poppers at the whorehouses, which are now almost defunct. I prefer my use of poppers to be as discreet as possible so I don't want to use a mask of any sort. Poppers will degrade faster if exposed to air/humidity so there's a trade off to inhaling directly from the bottle.
T80 said on Sun, 20 Sep 2020 at 07:39...
Do you mean bathhouses, NS!? Either way a post about your memories - for reasons of historical record would be great! I love reading novels / seeing movies about how life was before Grindr!
bud said on Sat, 17 Oct 2020 at 18:02...
My favorite method is putting wadded up paper towel in a glass jar, carefully pouring a few mls of poppers onto the paper towel and closing the jar. You can take super quick hits that are intense because a lot of vapor has built up and I find the jar top easier to unscrew than the little bottle, not to mention no worries of getting burns.