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Topic created by no-smo king
on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 05:58
no-smo king said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 05:58...
I've been reading through the posts and looking for a good supplier and I gotta say this site looks like a lot of bullshit. It is very easy to spot
the suppliers on this site promoting their product and to spot the people that are just posting results. What would be the motive for a person just simply posting honest results ? Does that person get money out of it ?
Does the supplier make money on dishonest posts ? I would say that TD shows the best postings.
Ma No2 said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 07:35...
That is because some very vocal posters are claiming that IBN is the only real poppers. They will bad mouth anything that isn't and are claiming all kinds of wild things about any brand that does not reach some remembered standard of perfection (Pac West). The motive for someone posting a balanced opinion is to contribute something of value, rather than bang their own drum about their own prejudices. There is a big difference between balanced opinion and prejudice. You get mostly prejudice here and a lot of wild angry speculation. Also, you will find what THR called "label queens"
Balanced opinions are rare - there are quite a few paranoid rantings for sure. Anyway, those that prefer isopentyl nitrite for example (like eastie and a few others) are quieter. If you are in the US then The Rush Hour has already produced a detailed list of suppliers for you. He is quieter now and I am sorry about that, I guess he got tired of arguing that the sky is blue when other maintain it is orange. If you say you like isopropyl, or one of the other newbie formulas cyclohexyl, you get a shit storm. Somebody should produce a balanced review of that range. Will, they? Doubt it.
TD meaning Tiny Deal? Jako likes them and has encouraged a few folks to try. Unless he is Chinese then that is fair enough, right? People promoting themselves? Oh what a surprise! It is called life. Folks like Paul and Snake have done so quite openly and IMHO are quite welcome to do so. What would you prefer...The Spanish Inquisition?
Jako (UK) said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 08:15...
no-smo king: You are absolutely right, on first inspection this site does look bullshit, heaps of it. You've also picked up on TD getting the best postings. That isnít because of me. Itís because a lot of people have been around the block a few times and end up with the so called 'new formulas' Pentyl or the ghastly Propyl. The latter induces breathing problems and distorted eyesight - yet it's legal? Crazy.
IBN is without a doubt the king popper, especially in the days when PWD refined and improved it with their 'secret formula' which produced a smooth, warm long lasting rush, pulse in the head followed by rapid heartbeat.
Ma No2 said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 09:45...
There you go...just proved my point.
"without a doubt" or in my not very humble opinion
"secret formula" - mad conspiracy theory, funny but now getting on some people's nerves
"ghastly Propyl" - see above
"the king popper" - that which Jako has anointed and crowned based on his own preference. Some people hate it, some people lurv it
You are the one that has been telling everyone to go Chinese, you say it nearly every day. You also said IBN is banned in the US, it is not. You also said that the EU (whom you clearly do not like one bit!) is up to no good on a global basis and forcing the US to do it's bidding. It is all rather amusing, but it is only your opinion. A lot of people do not know whether you are joking, or actually believe half this stuff. This is based on the fact that your fave brand Liquid Gold was once IBN and now 'aint. I would humbly suggest the story there is a bit more down to earth than you think.
Jako (UK) said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 10:06...
Who's nerves is it getting on? You seem to be the only one getting rattled.
I would like to hear no-smo kings opinion. He's on the right track: TD
Ma No2 said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 10:26...
The stuff about the IBN ban in the USA is false and it is misleading, Jako. Promoting Chinese products which are obvious fakes, and prob cyclohexyl nitrite anyway, or at best mixes, is helpful? It is your opinion OK, but you say it every single day. Why don't you order from Paul or Snake?
Jako (UK) said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 11:59...
You are absolutely right, they are fakes! But very, very good ones.
The labelling is identical to PWD, and the cap is embossed perfectly with the PWD logo. They have gone great lengths to emulate the 'master popper makers'. It's almost certainly butyl. However they havenít quite cracked the secret brewing method that made PWD poppers so good. I also have suspicions that UK liquid Gold were using a similar refinement method until the EU stepped in.
Tosser del Mar said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 17:19...
blah blah blah chinese gear: cheap but well dodgy they will fake anything that moves. what did the package say anyhoo .got something from them once and it was crap and marked up as shampoo
Jako (UK) said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 19:50...
Tosser del Mar:
Why exactly were you buying shampoo from China when you live in Birmingham?
Paul said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 23:57...
I rate IBN as the best. I have never knowingly had Amyl Nitrite. I have never tried pentyl nitrite. The cyclohexal version sure worked for me for about a year nothing wrong with it for me until I started getting chest infections and blinding headaches. It was about then I started making my own IBN.
I have also made under experimentation IPN, PN and BN.
Unfortunately I got nothing off those.
Jako (UK) said on Thu, 5 Jun 2014 at 06:03...
IBN is indeed the King Popper. The trick is in the refinements after basic production, i.e. Additives, filters etc. which give that 'extra kick' and lasting power. Possibly a combination of IBN and Amyl Nitrite?
no-smo king said on Thu, 5 Jun 2014 at 06:05...
I started on hospital grade amyl 18 years ago and in my opinion
it is and always will be the holy grail of poppers. A five minute buzz with absolutely no after affects whatsoever. The last four years or so
all the poppers I have tried are missing one key element and that is what I call the "horny " element. Liquid Gold actually used to be one of my favorites for a long time too but correct me if I'm wrong but I think when it first came out it was amyl. I am hoping that TD will have the missing element. Butyl is good and propyl is ok but pentyl and cyclo
are the worst in my opinion but lately.........holy shit where'd the horny go !!!!
Jako (UK) said on Thu, 5 Jun 2014 at 07:11...
Ahhhhh, Liquid Gold!!!
It certainly was good stuff, I was buying it 20 years ago here in the UK.
It was actually labelled 'Alkyl nitrites' then, but undoubtedly was amyl or butyl (or possibly a mixture). The 'horny feeling' is what I miss. TD poppers are very close, but they haven't yet perfected their production techniques just yet. However, they are the best I've come across with no ill effects the day after.
The Rush Hour said on Fri, 6 Jun 2014 at 06:18...
Chuckles ** Label Queens**
Eastie69 said on Fri, 6 Jun 2014 at 20:12...
Better, cheaper, safer poppers for all
Just to note, I am a huge fan of isopentyl, but that is amyl and I no longer know of any sources. Pentyl is a different formula and is simply the best I have tried since the good ol days....
Paul said on Fri, 6 Jun 2014 at 20:50...
I find it really fascinating how different people seem to experience different things on the same compounds. Me I like IBN others get off on pentyl, isopropyl etc. Maybe just a thought but just maybe we are just all old queens with nasal linings like old leather shoes and absolutely nothing will give us the original "rush". You just can't roll back time......
Terrible Masturbator said on Fri, 6 Jun 2014 at 21:38...
'You just can't roll back time'
Five-O said on Sat, 7 Jun 2014 at 14:14...
Anyone, who used poppers over the years, will eventually have found his or her favourite. Mine was Jungle Juice Plus (the one in the squared bottle, manufactured by whomever) containing IBN (it read so on the label). Of all brands I tried (that weren't so many) this one did the trick best. Isn't it understandable, that people now looking for something comparable, will take their favourite brand for reference?
To be honest, I didn't even know about the IBN ban in Europe. But I did notice the change of effect PP's had on me. I thought I might have developed a tolerance, yet it was not until I got on this forum here, that I found out about all the different compositions (ha, I didn't use the "F" word) that are common these days. Now I know, why these new products don't really work for me.
By the way: what brand was it, that contained butyl (not IBN)?
Jako & Eastie69: thanks for the info on TD. Might have to try this route.
Diablo said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 07:53...
Paul..........You made an excellent point except for the remark about
old queens. There are straight people here also. Could long time users be " leatherheads ' . The stronger the popper the better it is for me. I'm off toTiny Deal also.
The Rush Hour said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 08:57...
Five O I think you missed it but its OK as you basically said the same thing Do you understand probably but does it matter nope. Still or even more confused I am sure you are but yes your are right!
Jako (UK) said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 10:46...
'There are straight people here also'
Theyíre certainly are, I'm one of them. I use poppers to jack off to 90's anal porn, especially Nici Sterling movies.
Anonymous said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 14:15...
so what is a label queen?????
helpful horace said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 15:20...
a gay man, especially an older man, whose way of behaving is noticeable and artificial: often seen wearing pink cashmere sweaters and making a big song and dance about things that don't matter
a man, especially an older man, whose way of behaving is noticeable and artificial: often seen wearing a tinfoil hat and making a big song and dance about things that don't matter
i can also provide helpful definitions for other hard to understand terms on request.
The Rush Hour said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 15:52...
Five-O said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 16:06...
So, what would be an old label queen then?
Eastie69 said on Mon, 9 Jun 2014 at 14:29...
Five0 : Np, its just my review on the ram. I wouldnt reccomend it, it really deteriorated into a nasty brew, and the other reviews and speculation of contaminants are more likely now. Its butyl, but they havent refined their process yet IMO I still hope to try the english soon, and will post a review
Five-O said on Mon, 9 Jun 2014 at 17:34...
Thank you Eastie, for your thoughts.
I've just been looking on TD and they have english:
The reviews for it aren't too bad either.
I read though one comment on Rush (or was it ram?) in german and he said it's most likely propyl.
Well, I see when I ordered.
Eastie69 said on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 at 11:21...
The one I tried was definitely butyl. The smell brought me back to 2005 when I would pick up a rush when I couldnt get the no-label stuff in Toronto. It was almost like it was old stock from that era, the PWD cap and label were perfect, and the power pak pellet was even broken into a couple small pieces. But it was most likely a high quality knockoff with low grade butyl.
Jako (UK) said on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 at 19:26...
I agree with the German review. TD Ram was similar to propyl in smell and effect, so I quickly ditched it. The Rush however was good stuff and packed a punch! I'm now awaiting the 'English' to arrive plus some more Rush.
Five-O said on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 at 21:12...
Jako & Eastie69:
They also have Liquid Aroma. Apparently they have 4 Brands: Rush, Ram, English and the afore-mentioned. But I think their search function's a bit messed up. Perhaps they have more, anyway. I'll order 1 of each, just for the fun of it. Maybe it'll even pass customs. Now I'm curious... Toodles
Anonymous said on Tue, 17 Jun 2014 at 19:42...
You are correct, it is low grade butyl and a nasty brew.
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plop said on Mon, 18 Jul 2016 at 17:38...
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User147 said on Fri, 18 Aug 2017 at 12:14...
Recent order from poppers-aromas.eu of gate, tiger gold, ultimate and flag. All are really bad. Ultimate claims to be isobutyl, I doubt it. Gate claims to be amyl, came with a sticker on it listed as another ingredient. Flag also listed as isobutyl I doubt it. Tiger gold isopentyl and isoamyl mix. Tried them all ended up choking and coughing and seeing yellow spots when I blink. Couldn't even get hard. Horrible products. I used to get could poppers from poppers-aromas.eu but not for the last couple of years. Sadly the only other formula that's acceptable is pentyl. Bring back original isobutyl formulas.