Owen Jones on homophobia

Topic created by PJ
on Sun, 1 Jun 2014 at 18:14

PJ said on Sun, 1 Jun 2014 at 18:14...

There's a fine article here by Owen:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/01/homophobia-deep-rooted-rife-ultimately-doomed

The best idea is the connection between homophobia and group identity. Now translate that into national identity and you see how nasty little $#@#* like Putin, Mugabe, etc can use it as weapon against their own society.

Anonymous said on Sun, 1 Jun 2014 at 19:49...

What does this have to do with poppers?

Jako (UK) said on Mon, 2 Jun 2014 at 10:30...

He thinks this is the forum for 'poopers'.

PJ said on Mon, 2 Jun 2014 at 11:40...

Hi Jako what do you mean by that word "poopers"/ this is a forum for "poopers" as opposed to straight guys like yourself is how it reads. You are calling gay people this word i guess. So how does the term relate to gay men...the only conclusion being it is derogatory (i.e homophobic)

Jako (UK) said on Mon, 2 Jun 2014 at 13:11...

PJ: This forum is about poppers, not the writings of pseudo intellectuals.

PJ said on Mon, 2 Jun 2014 at 14:41...

Thank you, Nigel. Let us hear some more of your theories about light bulbs then......

Ma No2 said on Mon, 2 Jun 2014 at 15:34...

Hmmmm...Owen Jones is indeed a left wing pesudo like Julie Burchill. They will graft their politics onto any issue that fits, they cannot stand the fact that socialism withered on the vine. The point about "group identity" is basic level student psychology, wordy smarty pants waffle in the Guardian is good for wrapping up fish and chips (but the ink runs).

Nigel F said on Tue, 3 Jun 2014 at 08:09...

PJ: Light bulbs banned by The EU is fact, do a search.

PJ said on Tue, 3 Jun 2014 at 10:59...

So is global warming a fact! The action against your old fashioned bulbs is a global effort, not from The EU only.

Jako (UK) said on Tue, 3 Jun 2014 at 11:43...

They are in it together, a global conspiracy.

PJ said on Tue, 3 Jun 2014 at 16:31...

Who? SPECTRE? SMERSH? The Women's Institute? Bulgarians!??

Ma No2 said on Tue, 3 Jun 2014 at 21:11...

It is a conspiracy by Polish electricians.

Maureen said on Wed, 4 Jun 2014 at 13:23...

Oooh. A big Polish plumber gave my pipes a lookin at last week. Lovely fella! They were blocked up something rotten I can tell you. he said I need to flush them out regularly. after i gave him a nice brew and we were watching Flog It but the signal went :-( he was poking around with my box for ages after that. Very versatile they can turn their hand to anything. I never found out what Ivan's pottery elephant made, does anyone know please? I doubt it was worth 60 quid! like that fat git in the scarf said. Owen Jones sounds Welsh...we all know what that means.

Jako (UK) said on Thu, 5 Jun 2014 at 10:10...

'Owen Jones sounds Welsh...we all know what that means'

We certainly do.
Wales, where men are men and sheep are nervous.

Maureen said on Thu, 5 Jun 2014 at 13:54...

They eat seaweed for breakfast that is all I am saying. If they let their dogs run around then of course the sheep might get upset. They used to put warning on the telly about it you know. There was a big cat called Roland that used to tell you about getting drowned and playing with matches. I am sorry to say that they do not put those warnings on telly anymore, I suppose the world is not so full of danger now! Talking of warnings, I just want to say this: Celebrity Masterchef.

PJ said on Thu, 5 Jun 2014 at 19:09...

Roland was a rat!

Roland lived beneath King's Cross railway station in The Ratcave. He had an infant brother called Little Reggie and had a girlfriend: Glenis the Guinea Pig. His colleagues included dour Welsh technical whizz Errol the Hamster

when did he "tell you about getting drowned"? A fine high minded response to the menace of homophobia, thanks.

Moonwater said on Fri, 6 Jun 2014 at 08:52...

The Wombles used to do this stuff and so did Tufty; The Wombles turned nasty about litter as i remeber.

Underground, overground, wombling free
The Wimbledon Wombles live in a tree
Dishing out kickings to those that we find
Leaving their needles and condoms behind

People don't notice us, they never see
Under their noses a Womble may be
We womble by night, watch by day
We will catch you like a bird of prey.

Terrible Masturbator said on Fri, 6 Jun 2014 at 21:45...

I am a Cider Drinker,
I drinks it all of the day,
I am a Cider Drinker,
it soothes all me troubles away,
Ooh arrh, ooh arrh ay, Ooh arrh, ooh arrh ay,

Moonwater said on Sun, 8 Jun 2014 at 16:01...

Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
I wonder where The Wombles are.
Up above the world so high,
Like a vulture in the sky.

When the blazing sun is gone,
When he nothing shines upon,
Then The Wombles do take flight,
Swopping down with savage bite

Be afeared cider drinker in the dark,
Pissing, puking in our communal park
And the bush tart seeking to blow
Twinkle little star, twinkle so.

Mrs Dean said on Mon, 11 Jan 2016 at 21:35...

I do not like your poetry. I suspect you wear your trousers high around the waist and sport an unkempt mustache.

Swain said on Wed, 16 Mar 2016 at 13:37...

I agree with Mrs Dean. Monnwater's poesie is lacklustre. I suggest the writer cuts a ludicrous figure in literary salons smoking a cheroot and deliberately wearing suede shoes when it rains.

Roger said on Tue, 24 Oct 2017 at 08:27...

Hi, does anyone know if Des O' Connor wears a hair piece?

Kris said on Thu, 2 Nov 2017 at 05:05...

@Roger
Yes, Des O'Conner wears a hair piece.

Bored Game said on Thu, 28 Dec 2017 at 21:54...

Here's something you will not see in Trivial Pursuit.

What was the name of the German spy who was caught in the act with Alfred Harris (footman) in Upstairs Downstairs? Answer is Baron Klaus von Rimmer.

von Rimmer is not a known German name, which begs the question why use it? My theory is that Upstairs Downstairs is packed full of hidden obscenities. If anyone has the DVD box set try to count how many times Mrs Bridges talks about her blancmange or Mr Hudson says he will give the fire a good poke.

Manners Maketh Man said on Sat, 30 Dec 2017 at 14:09...

As for Mr Hudson, am I alone in thinking him rather camp? His employer often refers to him as "my man" and there is a lot of friction with Lady Marjorie over the drinks tray. Lady Bo Legg, who appears in the Episode "The Old Queen of Loch Lomond", says she saw Hudson once in Piccadilly dressed as a woman; Lord Bellamy hastily tells her it was a kilt...one wonders.

Hot Stuff said on Wed, 3 Jan 2018 at 10:10...

Lady Majorie! Such a snooty old fox, but she still has a carry on with a soldier.

Later the old girl goes down on the Titanic, but re-appears as a mentally deranged fortune teller with memory loss. Hudson pushes her off a cliff to save Lord Bellamy's reputation, but she appears two episodes later as a trapeze artiste (Madame Fifi) again with memory loss.

The plots towards the end were very strange - thank gawd for Downton! M'lud.

SWone said on Mon, 8 Jan 2018 at 20:22...

What about James Bellamy? I wouldn't be surprised to discover he is involved in something awful, involving rubber pipes.

Doff Ya Cap! said on Fri, 12 Jan 2018 at 14:54...

What happens to Lady M after that? If you would not mind making something up to complete the tale? PS. Master James had an incident at Harrow. His tuck box was opened and something personal belonging to a prefect was found therein.

Hot Stuff said on Mon, 15 Jan 2018 at 18:38...

They lock her in the attic. In the final episode (which was set in 1976) an Arab oil tycoon, Sheik Bin Dipper, who now owns Eaton Square, finds her and decides to marry her. The cook is now Miss Bridges (daughter of Mrs) she makes a huge orange wedding cake which collapses and so the series ends...it was axed I think.

Jack A Nory said on Fri, 19 Jan 2018 at 14:47...

I concur. I have long held suspicions about Mrs Bridges. She is obsessed with her short crust pastry and her relationship with Ruby was abusive. I have often wondered if she is a frustrated Sappho with dominatrix tendencies. I think she was after both Ruth and Ruby. Miss Hodges?

Doff Ya Cap! said on Thu, 1 Feb 2018 at 16:43...

I like the one where they all go on a picnic. What was that episode called? I am sure it was melodramatic and involved game pie.

Hot Stuff said on Mon, 5 Feb 2018 at 16:48...

Close Shave in The Lady Garden.

It was shot on Hampstead Heath and you can see two men peaking from behind the bushes. It was always badly shot. One of James Bellamy's sexually ambiguous toff friends flies by in a Sopwith Camel and crashes, he is tended back to health by Countess Dandy, really a man. "She" later discovers he is a blaggard and a card sharp after mortgaging the family estate to invest in a roulette system. The scenes in Monte Carlo were shot in Blackpool and you can see the pier!

PS. There was a pie involved, whether it was a game pie I cannot recall, sorry.

Char said on Thu, 15 Mar 2018 at 16:36...

There was a debacle over a pie. Mr 'Udson considered a pork pie too low class and forced them to eat ham and pheasant pie with celery sticks. The Bellamy family ate poached salmon.

BiBoy said on Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 08:31...

von Rimmer

Rimming is the act of ass licking; I don't think it is safe. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I googled Owen Jones and he looks cute.