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Topic created by dezarr
on Tue, 13 May 2014 at 23:14

dezarr said on Tue, 13 May 2014 at 23:14...

So I went a little crazy with poppers for about 3 months(pretty stupid but they felt amazing). Using them anywhere from 2-5 times a week sometimes multiple times in a day.
I would take large hits, sniffing from the bottle for 20-30 sec at a time.

after a while I started developing a cough that would get worse with heavier usage.

I have now stopped all popper use for about 2 weeks now. The cough is getting better, but i still have quite a bit a phlegm that I cough up when I wake up every day. Im worried I may have caused permanent damage.

Anyone else who has used heavily and had similar symptoms able to tell me if they were able to fully recover?

Jako said on Wed, 14 May 2014 at 06:17...

After a session, the immune system lowers for approx 3 days after.
So, 2- 5 sessions per week means your immune system is permanently lowered all week. That's not a good state to be in fella!
It's like all 'substances' you have to clean up for a while. Once a week is okay.

Anonymous said on Wed, 14 May 2014 at 13:57...

The over use is the cause, agitation to membranes. Answer: use less often. Cough is caused by natural production of phlegm after agitation and will pass in time.

Mike (UK) said on Wed, 14 May 2014 at 18:57...

If you're using isopropyl a lot, then this does happen. But it does go away. It will end up putting you off isopropyl poppers in the long run tho. You will know if it's isopropyl, if you get the tell-tale scabby nostrils!

If you can get hold of some isobutyl (or the daddy, amyl), you wouldn't get this.

But don't worry it'll go away if you quit the isopropyl.

B dude said on Tue, 12 Aug 2014 at 23:26...

Brother...stop that...popper maculopathy is what you should be worried about. Happened to me....bad... Google it. You can lose your eye sight. For real. Im 2 weeks out and still no change. Central vision gone. Its happening more and more since 2010. Experts aren't sure why. Dude gokgle it. Its real. Happened to me in one night from over doing it with poppers. Starves your retina of oxygen...the blue color. The cells die. May correct itself after SEVERAL montb. If abstinent. Very scary.. no cure.
Be careful. Blue is bad. 23 years of use...no problem. One bad night and now im dealing with this. I was using the original rush. Yellow/red bottle.

Teeeeeem said on Sun, 31 Aug 2014 at 15:41...

Erm, I got severe cough while using them constantly (isopropyl) for a few months and stupidly didn't stop and I still have the cough now - 1 year later - it got a lot better but it's never gone. Find myself coughing when I talk to people and all the time really.

Think the stupid thing was carrying on when I knew it was giving me extreme cough fits the next day - where I'd cough, then cough inside a cough and cough hard so all my air was out, then breathe in just to cough again. With hindsight shoulda read the signs and quit.

If anyone figures out anything that can improve - do share - 1 year on I still have it, though not as severe.

IHatePoppers said on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 at 11:46...

I'm also worried about my eyesight after a stupid night bingeing on 3 bottles of Liquid Gold, manufactured by Perpol and as sold in all UK sex shops.

It was the first time I'd used any poppers in three months, and the first time I'd used isopropyl in nine months.

There has been a general degradation in my vision and a loss of focus. I can't recognise faces from the same kind of distance or so well read writing on the screen, and my eyes are sensitive to bright lights.

I pray my vision returns to normal. It's been four days now. I am worried from what I've read that the damage has been done, it won't get better. Still I thank God that I didn't do even more harm, and that this is a warning not to ever do them again.

quickfix said on Fri, 26 Sep 2014 at 02:22...

I had the same issue with the cough. smaller hits and try a allergy medication. Allegra worked for me. Cleared up my allergies and helped with the cough. I learned I got the same good high on a small hit just as I did a big hit.

Jako said on Tue, 21 Oct 2014 at 07:58...

IHatePoppers:
Don't be too alarmed, I have exactly the same problem, its a relatively new eye condition, 'Poppers maculopathy'. I have been diagnosed by a highly qualified eye doctor. I was using UK poppers like Liquid Gold not realising the formula had changed in 2007. The good news: If you stop altogether your eyesight won't get any worse. My vision has stayed the same for 4 years after diagnosis. Bingeing on Iso Propyl Nitrite is dangerous, it can also cause severe breathing problems.
This article in The Lancet reveals the truth:

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2814%2960887-4/fulltext

Andy said on Wed, 3 Dec 2014 at 18:18...

Did your guys eyesight improve after stopping taking them?

Jako said on Sat, 6 Dec 2014 at 16:57...

Andy: In my case no improvement as yet, but complete abstinence from poppers will prevent further deterioration, and a possible improvement of visual acuity. So I'm hoping.

Tom said on Thu, 18 Dec 2014 at 15:44...

I have been using poppers since 2006 and never had any problems. Recently I used a new brand (isopropyl nitrate) and it was mint-scented. One night I went a bit mad and sniffed too much I guess. And then the problems began... difficulties recognizing people's faces and focusing on small details, reading small letters on a computer screen took me more time and focus than usual. I obviously read everything about poppers maculopathy, went to see a doctor, had my eyes tested for poppers maculopathy and it showed some small changes. She said my eyesight was generally not too bad and she has seen worse cases of poppers maculopathy but I definitely should stop using poppers. I tried... my vision got a bit better but I still see a dot when I look at the sky and blink my eyes repeatedly. Does someone see it all the time, actually? I stopped using poppers for two weeks but then used it again but the old brand. I know it's very risky I guess but it hasn't made my eyesight worse. I just don't know if it will ever be back to normal completely. I just feel annoyed I was told to stop completely because if using the old brand does not do any harm to my eyes and my eyesight is not going to get any better or worse then is it really worth giving up poppers completely?

Jako (UK) said on Fri, 19 Dec 2014 at 21:17...

Tom: 'The new brand' IPN appeared in 2007 as a legal replacement for the 'old brand'. The symptoms you describe are typical of 'Poppers Maculopathy' (caused by IPN).
Giving up is good advice. I have, and maybe my eyesight will improve in time.

Wow said on Fri, 2 Jan 2015 at 02:43...

B dude said on Wed, 13 Aug 2014 at 00:13...

Popper maculopathy. Happened to me. Very scary. Google it. Be informed. Im 2 weeks into it. Takes several months to heal. No guarantee. My central vision is GONE. From one night of huffing. Yes I know thats not good. But I been doing poppers 23 years. Never anything like this. This is a game changer for me. Happened in ONE night. Was using rush brand yellow/red bottle. Google it. Be informed.

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Jako (UK) said on Fri, 2 Jan 2015 at 12:50...

Wow: Join the club!
The more people know about this the better.

See my recent post on this thread below.
'eye-damage from isoprobyl'

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Jt001 said on Thu, 15 Jan 2015 at 20:54...

Hi all - interesting threads here about PM - it's certainly a concern and I don't think enough is being done to earn people using the new formulas of poppers. I've suffered with PM for about a year now. Thinking back when using poppers I noticed yellow rings in my central vision but at the time thought nothing of it. Unbeknown it was severely damaging my central vision. Looking on Google it's the photoreceptors that take the hit. These are essential for things like reading number plates, recognising people's faces from a distance - even typing this thread now I notice visual disturbances.

In some cases if you stop using the poppers - in time your vision will correct itself, but this is not guranteed.

Keep away from the poppers is my advice. That small hit is not worth the loss of vision.

JasonX said on Wed, 28 Jan 2015 at 20:14...

I have had eye problems for some time now approx 2 years and realise that poppers are the cause. I have been to see neurologists, opticians and ophthalmologists that have so far been unable to find a problem with my eyes. I have used poppers on and off for about 3 years not in excess only 3 or 4 inhalations at a time in one day and not necessarily on a regular basis, sometimes once a week for a few weeks and sometimes not used at all for several months. but my focus and vision can be blurred and a pain in my left eye and it sort of feels stiff and dry. I struggle with bright lights particularly artificial light and also white walls, its as though someone has just taken a photo and a flash has gone off in my eyes. I started reading about the vision problems caused by poppers a year or so ago and have tried to abstain from them the longest I went was about 6 months of not using them then used them one night and again 3 months later and again this week. I did find that when I hadn't used them for several months my eyes were a lot better and hate myself for going so long and letting myself do poppers again knowing how bad they are for your health. Reading this forum today has helped me and I will now try again to stop altogether. It is horrible to go 6 months and then use them again it makes you feel crap and that you have let yourself down. Its is re assuring to know people are learning more about this problem and becoming aware, I hope a people read this and stop using them and help spread the word. Most of the things I have read about poppers were outdated and not very helpful this forum is the best I have found and will now check regularly to see what updates and news people have. I am more than happy to communicate directly with anyone interested in sharing their experiences and progress with this issue.

Tom said on Fri, 13 Feb 2015 at 22:21...

Hi JasonX,

I know how much you're struggling. I've been going through the same I know it isn't easy. I am still very angry I had to give up using poppers. People say you can't get addicted to it but I think you can. Psychologically. And obviously everyone is different and some people can easily give up because they're not that bothered. I think I am a bit more complicated and found it extremely difficult to give up. I used it for the last time last month and I'm surviving. I saw a doctor 4 months ago and had my eyes scanned. It showed some very small changes. I had another scan two days ago and the doctor said she couldn't see any changes. My vision is better now but I still see that black dot when looking at very bright lights. You can drop me a line if you need someone to talk to. Just not sure how you want to contact me. Let me know.
Tom

The Unknown 9w said on Wed, 18 Feb 2015 at 09:00...

After sniffing poppers (Jungle Juice) & (Rush), I can see some eye floaters whenever I see light, it intensifies during the day because if the sunlight, and at night, I see Rays of lights coming out of all lights. It is like after you are crying, you see those rays, can someone please tell me this is temporary. Probably my body is overreacting, has someone had a similar experience and been ok afterwards?

Thank you.

Never going to sniff poppers ever again....

ravebilly said on Sat, 21 Feb 2015 at 12:54...

i am really grateful for the above comments. i too have been suffering with symptoms through poppers use.i am stopping right now and hope and pray that my vision improves.as one comment above the hit you get, whilst fantastic, cannot be worth the loss of eyesight.i am a 51 yr old male and have used poppers for several yrs.the first i noticed when was the color red was orange and focusing was hard as though you were trying to see in a dark room after looking up at sunlight.this is very scary.

Daniel said on Tue, 28 Apr 2015 at 08:41...

I had the same problems 4 years ago, I treat myself with eye vitamins (Lutein , Zeaxantin) and with Aescin-Teva which hepls normalize fluid leaking form small blood-vessel in the eye. It got better after after couple of months.

Last week I did this stupid mistake again and have the same problem back :-(

I'll do poppers anyday said on Sun, 10 May 2015 at 19:08...

You know what most of your peoples problems is, the same as people who get out of hand with any other drug, you don't understand what moderation is. anything in excess and I mean anything can kill you or damage you. ofcourse poppers are bad for you, if you didn't know that from the start, yoy had to take the short bus to school. THE KEY TO ANYTHING FUN IS MODERATION PEOPLE whether it's poppers or something harder or taking tylenol which destroys your livers if taken too much. DAM- to the sqare ass st8 people posting in here, go get a nice long thick sausage before you talk your sheet, and make sure not to bite, just slide it in as deep as you can, a$$holes

aqua said on Tue, 12 May 2015 at 19:29...

Hi - This is my first post.

So I was using Liquid Gold pretty heavily for two years up until January 2015. After a heavy session, I got really weird symptoms that have lasted months so far: Ectoptic heart beats, chesty cough, sudden outbreak of cherry angiomas, memory problems, aphasia and stuttering, flashing lights in my peripheral vision, and a black/purple cloud in my central vision when looking at bright lights or when I rapidly blink.

Went to A&E a few times in regard to the heart beats - they told me all was good. Had a chest X-Ray - came back fine. Cherry Angiomas are considered normal anyway so nothing can be investigated there. My GP just shrugged off the speech problems and aphasia, so there's room for more research there.

As for the eyesight: I got back from the Eye Hospital today and had several tests: She said there were some subtle spots on my right retina which she pointed out to me on the computer. I'm going to have a retina dye injection test in four weeks.

So far all symptoms have subsided except for the vision, memory and slight aphasia. Whether all of my symptoms are attributable to the poppers is difficult to say.

For the record, I was also heavily exposed to black mould spores for several weeks from a water damaged building at exactly the same time as my last heavy popper session. It's possible that the lowered immune system caused by the poppers made me more susceptible to black mould mycotoxicosis. Blood tests showed a slightly lower white blood cell count during this period.

Just thought I'd post my experiences here. I know popper use comes with risks, but the industry really needs to be informed about isopropyl-nitrate if it is proven to be more dangerous than the previous recipe.

After all, surely the recipe change was designed to make things safer?

Andy Leicester said on Tue, 9 Jun 2015 at 02:25...

Hi guys I am Andy from Leicester,
I am 43 and have been using poppers now for about 12 years. I didn't like them in my 20's -- but LOVED them in my 30's and when I went cruising back in the early 2000's I had NO problems at all with them...

Anyway; then suddenly in 2008/09 (or thereabouts -- after they had changed the ingredients in the UK) -- I got this big black spot right in the middle of my vision!! I was terrified. It was after a VERY heavy night of using them with this guy! It lasted for about 3 or 4 months -- so I totally stopped using poppers, and gradually the spot faded away.

I would notice this spot when I looked up at the sky, I would blink repeatedly and would notice the spot even more! If I looked at something black, then the spot would appear white. I had EXACTLY the same problems as all you other guys. I couldn't read number plates. I couldn't see peoples faces as they approached me in the street. I couldn't see properly if I went to the theatre. And I couldn't see fine writing clearly. Every morning when I woke up I would pray that my sight would be better, but it wasn't! The poppers had stopped the oxygen getting to my eyes, and part of my macular had died off. I didn't realize this at the time though? It took another few years to actually realize this; and a LOT of studying on the internet.

I went to the hospital when my eyes just wouldn't clear up -- but they could NOT find anything wrong with me? This was in 2010 before the government were admitting that the NEW ingredients were dangerous!

You see this is the reason why poppers have been banned in the UK, and why the Queen has suddenly banned all "Legal High's" -- its because the fucking UK government have realized now that poppers can make you blind -- and its all their fault, because if they hadn't have changed the ingredients back in 2007 then none of this would have happened and we would NEVER have had to change to Isopropyl,,, (before 2007 we used to have Isobutyl in the UK -- but they are now only seemingly available in the USA).... It seems that the UK government DID NOT test Isopropyl properly before they introduced it to the UK... But of course because these drugs are sold as "Room Odourises" I guess the government will get away with damaging our eyesight. They will just say "Well you shouldn't have been inhaling them!"

In my case; I was really stupid and as soon as my eyes got back to normal (after about a year), I started to use them again. I could really kick myself for using them again; because your eyesight is SO precious, and as you guys have already said, its just not worth it for about a 20 second high. So I was using them all through 2011 and 2012 and 2013 and then I started to get the black dot again -- as if someone had taken my photograph with a bright flash!!! And yet the flash just WOULD NOT go away! I was really stupid using them again. You'd think I would have learned my lesson; but they were so addictive that I couldn't stop using them! Especially whilst watching porn on my laptop. Sometimes I would be using them for about an hour at a time.

During those three years of using them; I figured out a trick!! As soon as I had cum I would quickly lie down on the sofa; and put my legs in the air against the back of the sofa, and lie down with my head backwards on the floor; and my bum on the sofa -- so that ALL of the blood would rush to my eyes!!! And I would blink repeatedly for about 30 minutes.... It was ridiculous! I was virtually upside-down to get the oxygen and blood to my eyes and my brain because I KNEW what damage I was doing! And in my mind I thought "Oh I must get the oxygen to my eyes quickly because I've been starving them all that time I was wanking!" -- I knew that blinking repeatedly would get more oxygen to my eyes, so I would carry out this silly regime every time I used poppers, and it seemed to work... Oh and I would also take massive deep breaths of air!!!! I would lie there upside down and would be blinking, and would watch the spot as it would gradually disappear... the MORE oxygen I gulped down the more the spot more vanish... So I would take a massive deep breath -- hold it for about five seconds, and then let it out, and then blink and see if the spot was going??? As soon as it was gone, I would sit upright again... But NOT before!! I was playing Russian Roulette with my eyesight!

But now; I'm just too scared to use them! I've read so much on the internet about guys going blind because of them; and I still have a very slight spot when I blink repeatedly (even though I've not used them for months and months now) -- so fingers crossed I will never use them again!

The other thing I've done is to write myself an Email -- saying "Do you want to go blind Andy???! If so then keep using poppers!"

The only trouble is, is that having a wank watching porn is SO boring without poppers. I sort of crave the good old days about ten years ago when the sex shops sold the safe poppers that didn't damage your eyesight and didn't make your lungs feel heavy and damaged...

I'm telling you younger guys -- the poppers from before 2007 were definitely different!!!!!!! They were much safer, much smoother, I never had any problems with them... They never made me turn blue....

I honestly don't know what the answer is? Yes! Stop using them and have a boring sex life... or try to order the Isobutyl poppers from America? But the thing is!! If you DO order them -- how do you know what you're getting is the real deal? They could be Isopropyl for all we know? I once ordered some Isobutyl poppers from America; but they cost a fortune and took about 2 months to arrive (I think they sent them via a ship instead of Airmail) -- and they were STILL not as good as the ones we used to have in the early 2000's...

I think for me, the only answer is to completely STOP using them! I've never smoked in my life; but I compare this to having to stop smoking! You know the cigarette smoke is BAD for you and is probably killing you; but what a boring life it is without them!!!!!!!

Anyone wanting to chat to me i will give you my email..

Andy Leicester

Jonesy said on Wed, 10 Jun 2015 at 07:09...

My mate went for his driving test, was asked to read a numberplate and couldn't test cancelled and his provisional license was immediately withdrawn. Went to optician, then to GP, then to hospital specialist in central London who asked him directly do you take poppers? Yes, he said and had a big binge two years ago. (He has had vision problems with glare for 2 years.) That's the cause said the consultant irreparable damage - I see this every week. I can do nothing for you except tell you to stop. And he explained it was because of the reformulation to IBP in 2007. My mate will now wear tinted glasses to hope that this will help with glare...

JDC said on Sun, 21 Jun 2015 at 16:36...

Well after an evening using isopropyl poppers (probably 12 inhales or so) I have exactly these symptoms. I suspect almost everyone who inhales isopropyl based poppers will suffer vision issues but may not make the connection.

I had noticed a week after exposure that something was not quite right with my vision. One way to tell is to look at a large white surface like a wall and blink rapidly. If you see an altered visual spot in the centre of your vision you have damaged your sight thanks to isopropyl poppers. Other symptoms include a sensitivity to illuminated objects (traffic lights, light bulbs, car brake lights in my case) immediately / days after.

Well done to whoever decided to ban butyl & amyl which did not cause this damage and give the other nasty side effects that the legal isopropyl does! I remember the days of amyl & butyl, and neither caused these symptoms or damage. This is a VERY DANGEROUS situation we have here, and one which is not receiving anywhere near enough publicity. I have tried to start a new thread on here but seem unable to do so? Can someone else try to start a new thread about this issue which NEEDS to be put out there to save people damaging their eyesight....

Andy Leicester said on Wed, 24 Jun 2015 at 17:52...

I've been thinking A LOT about this! I was wondering if we all had a GOOD case in taking the government to court about this? The reason I say this is because it was the government who changed the ingredients to poppers back in 2007 (?) or whenever it was? And ALL of us are saying the same story!!! i.e, that we have ALL been using poppers for years and years with NO trouble at all...... And then hey presto; the moment the government changes the ingredients from Isobutyl to Isopropyl in 2007, we all start going blind.... But the thing is; is that its been happening SO slowly; and gradually; and its such a new phenomenon that none of us twigged that other gay guys might also be suffering!

Perhaps we ought to band together and take the government to court and get money out of the fuckers? Your eyesight is SO precious; and had I known that Isopropyl would give me this condition, then I NEVER would have used it in the first place!

I actually remember vividly, the first time it happened back in about 2008, i went back to the sex shop, and said "Hey listen, I want to buy some of the old style poppers, because these are making my eyes go weird!!" -- but he refused to sell them to me! His actual words were; "No sorry, they are illegal now; I can't sell them to you." -- So that means that the government put us all at risk for 8 years. From 2007 to 2015.

I agree with JDC (above poster) when he says: Quote: "This is a VERY DANGEROUS situation we have here, and one which is not receiving anywhere near enough publicity. I have tried to start a new thread on here but seem unable to do so? Can someone else try to start a new thread about this issue which NEEDS to be put out there to save people damaging their eyesight..".. (Unquote)

Thanks guys...

Tom said on Fri, 26 Jun 2015 at 21:01...

I can't start any new thread either but it doesn't matter. Just thought I would write something as it's been a few months now since I first experienced vision problems. I stopped doing poppers for a few months and my vision is back to normal now. I don't know what it depends on but I know some people's problems do not go away. Anyway, mine did, and I'm glad. It obviously meant that I started using poppers again. I know it's probably silly but I have been using it for 3 months now and my vision is not affected in any way. I just went back to using the brands I used to use, which didn't cause any problems. I know most of you will thing it's super irresponsible and I was scared to use poppers again at first but decided to give it a go and I'm fine. I don't buy it in the UK, though. This stuff is just shit. Bought it once in a sex shop and threw it away straight away. It felt awful and that's probably what gives most people vision problems. Anyway, thought I would share it with you. Call me dumb but I'm glad my sex life is back to 'normal' and I can just have a wank at home instead of meeting guys for sex or being in a relationship. Weird, but I am.

aqua said on Wed, 1 Jul 2015 at 14:02...

I had a fluorescein angiogram which detected epithelial changes to the retina in the position where my vision is affected. Like other posters here, I sense the changes most notably when looking at a white wall and blinking rapidly.

My ophthalmologist has said the changes for me are likely permanent, but I'm not sure if I believe that totally.

The eye is a very technical bit of biological kit that relies on relatively unique trace elements, and so is not likely to restore itself without a modified diet rich in all the things it needs to heal. I've been looking at Boron as one such element along with BDNF (brain derived neurotrophic factor) which is synthesised by the brain from a combination of daily aerobic activity combined with large amounts of omega-3 and folic acid.

For the people who have recovered that's great news, but could you perhaps share some insight into your lifestyle, so as we all might get a rough understanding of things that might help. For example, do you go to the gym regularly...? Do you eat well / poorly? Are you on any types of vitamins? Do you get much sunlight? Etc etc...

Any information I'm sure would be a great help.

Andy Leicester said on Thu, 16 Jul 2015 at 15:56...

In response to "Aqua"s statement above -- I seem to be in the same boat as you. I can only TRULY see the damage done when I stare at a white wall and blink repeatedly-really-quickly-over-and-over!!

But ONE phenomena I have ALSO noticed, (and maybe you get this too??) is that whenever I get stressed about something then the condition gets much worse, and more evident!!!!!

When the human body reacts to a sudden "stress-Bolt" -- then you sort of get a jolt inside your body, and your heart suddenly beats faster -- even if its only momentarily (i.e phone ringing - doorbell ringing -- someone shouting etc)... And when that happens I find that I can see the white spot in front of my eyes much more evidently. It can even be seen whilst I am just surfing on the internet..

So in other words my body is in a relaxed "mode" whilst I'm reading something on the internet etc; something will happen to momentarily stress me, (such as the reason I stated above), I feel a rise in tension in my body! And if I look back at the computer I can see that awful spot in front of my eyes!!!! And of course that then makes me even MORE stressed, and it takes awhile for it to go away...

And I think to myself "Oh God - I've still got it then! It hasn't gone away!!!" -- and it makes me worried as to just WHEN will my eyes totally recover? In fact I have an awful feeling that they never will recover fully -- and this is the best they will ever be... ?

So long story, short -- I think stress can make it worse...

And just imagine if I started using them again! ALL of the goodness I've achieved in not using poppers for all these months would be undone; and my eyesight might get even worse than it is now??? I sort of feel lulled into a false sense of security because my eyesight has recovered slightly, and sometimes I think "Oh surely I can use poppers again NOW -- after all these months...." (The human brain can play nasty tricks on you)...

Tom; I think you're very silly to tempt fate and start using poppers again, when you know that they can make you go blind. You were very very lucky to recover completely from the first episode you experienced, so why are you jeopardising your health? I know they are VERY addictive so I don't blame you; but try a bit harder to stop using them.

"Aqua" -- Do you live in the UK?? Do you think we should all bandy together and hold the UK government responsible for this? I mean it was them that changed the ingredients in 2005 to something dangerous, and now this "plague" of "Poppers Maculopathy" has taken ahold of scores (perhaps hundreds or even thousands?) of people.

Some people might not even be aware their eyesight is damaged because they aren't perhaps quite so pernikity as me.

Poppers user malaysia said on Sat, 25 Jul 2015 at 08:16...

Hi...i have been using poppers imported from uk for almost a year now, on almost daily basis. Typically i would sniff 3-4 times.

I wish to visit the eye doctor for check but i doubt drs in my country hv any idea about poppers since only very small minority use it

Any suggestion of what sort of problem should i tell them so that they would conduct the correct test on my eyes in order to see whether my eyes has been affected by the prolonged use of poppers.

B dude said on Tue, 28 Jul 2015 at 05:46...

1st post was august 14 2014 or around there. My eyes got significantly better with abstinence. However only after about 4 monthes. After that i tried using poppers once a week and only lightly. May be 5 hits and done. My vision continued to improve but not as quickly.so i figured if i continue like this i should continue to recover. As long as i dont over do it. I was hoping the problem was large amounts, not use in general. During this time i ate tons of raw kale, took Lutein and zeaxathin.(sp?) Also ran 2 days a week,i figured oxygen to the brain would be good. Anyway in may 2015 had a wild night. Lots of poppers. I tried to be careful but we know how that can go. I Woke up and had damaged my eyes again. I was pissed. All that healing progress gone. The damage wasnt as bad as the 1st time back in 2014, but was significant. Went abstinent again. Then i figured a little wont hurt, as long as i dont huff it, overdo it for long periods. Then the most unexpected thing happened. Did a light popper session last week. 8 hits max. And damaged my eyes worse than the wild night in may 7 weeks priorwhere i did poppers for hours. And it was an old bottle ! So im really pausing now. Perhaps its because i had just done damage in may and they were more susceptible? ? I thought damage came from heavy use. Huffing it. Now i see you can damage eyes from just a little. Im really stopping. I need to heal . Cant lose my eyesight. Same symptoms as everyone. White light is enemy. Central vision gone. Like a frosted lens covering tiny lettering. It healed once, i hope it will heal again. It wasnt 100% healed from 2014 but was 85%. It healed slow. Like each month i noticed a small improvement. Dark green leafy veggies and yellow veggies are your best friend. And of course abstinence. Sucks cause i LOVE poppers. 23 plus years. No problems. Now i have to stop. We need the old formula. Wheres the chemists ??
Lets do this. There has got to be a solution to this. And no poppers is not acceptable. Nor is damaged eyes. The old formula is out there. Bring it back.

Andy UK said on Fri, 31 Jul 2015 at 21:28...

Hi B Dude....

Yes I feel your pain!! If they had stuck to the original ingredients in the UK in the first place, then none of this would have happened!!!!! But no they decided to change the ingredients in about 2007, and now (even when we buy what we think is Isobutyl Nitrate) we still don't know what is going happen to us?!?!? I mean, how do we actually know that what we are sniffing is Isobutyl????? And as for the "Good Stuff" from ten years, twenty years etc -- ago, (i.e the SAFE STUFF) I don't think it exists any more??? I've come to the conclusion that they just don't manufacture it any more.

There are so many places selling poppers on line nowadays that WHO knows what you are getting??? It could just be Nail Polish Remover for all we know???

I've had to make a truly life-changing decision to just GIVE UP poppers once and for all!!! Its so fucking boring; but my eyesight comes first! Its a shame because I really miss them!!!!

KhA said on Thu, 6 Aug 2015 at 15:52...

I had excessive use and my vision is altered, it's not as sharp and clear as it was, one of my friend is ophthalmologist and he said sometimes it's permanent damage.
I won't touch this ever again
It's not worth it, few mins of pleasure and all life of pain is not comparable

An idiot! said on Mon, 10 Aug 2015 at 14:19...

So like most on here I've used the new version of poppers, massive hits, combined with cocaine! Feels unreal. But like others I've felt the cost! Lowered immune system, difficulty breathing, nasel irritation and the worst all the symptoms of poppers maculopathy. Eye pain, aversion to light, and ofc the misty blur at the centre of you're vision, made worse by light coloured or reflective surfaces (can't make out faces). Once ide realised what ide done, and coupled with the fact I was in a dark place imotionaly, with a two week hiatus I then binged again! Just not giving a shit anymore, what an idiot. But someone must have been looking out for me!
As soon as I saw the blue spot for a second time I stopped sniffing! Panic set in! even in my diluotional state! I then began to breath deeply to clear my lungs and I began clamping my eyes closed, so hard I could see the blue circle change colour to yellow, squinting hard and hard I could see the yellow circles getting smaller and more vivid! Until I couldn't see it anymore! As soon as I released my eyes I could see the yellow circles again, so I respected the process several times. In between each time I would focus on thing and strain my eyes in different locations rapidly! Almost making myself go cross eyed. Don't ask me why I did all this, i was high and not in my right mind!
Drinking lots of water, taking ibuprofen, paracetamol, codeine I then passed out!
Upon waking the next day, furious with myself for what I had done, I looked in the mirror, still a blue hue to my skin which comes from poppers abuse! I suddenly realised my eyes were normal again. Shocked I went outside to see faces in the sunlight, and bar the hangover I could see almost perfectly again! Now after several months my eyesight is normal again! I still get eye pain and dry eyes now and again, mainly when staring at a screen! I class myself extremely lucky to have recovered! Now I'm not saying I'm right in my assumption, but the phrase "what kills cures" might be the case here
I hope this helps someone, maybe someone out there has had the same experience!

An idiot said on Mon, 10 Aug 2015 at 16:18...

Reading that back I don't want anyone to try this without consulting a real expert on eyes and someone who knows a lot about this subject. Maybe the could explain what happened to me! I won't follow it up as its in the buried past!

Old One Eye said on Wed, 12 Aug 2015 at 05:52...

There was quite a bit to get through in this thread. I glommed onto that poppers maculapathy thing that was mentioned and looked it up. I'm one of those guys who loves poppers and have used them since about 1980 (about 25 years). Twenty-five because they were unavailable some years. I have one eye that is not as good as the other. I do not need glasses according to the eye doctor, but I certainly have to do some compensating. I don't believe I have that maculapathy thing, because the eye doctor would have seen it. What I've thought is that my right nostril was always my 'best' one for sniffing. First the left, then really go at the right one. I always thought that opening my eyes too soon while the vapours were still wafting up did something to my right eye. Closed eyes for the left nostril, then open eyes toward the end of the right nostril. Still pretty sure this did some damage and it wasn't from anything else because my parents seem to have pretty good eyesight. But who knows. If I had to do it all over again? I would have stockpiled the amyl nitrate poppers before they changed, and I would have stockpiled extra poppers for any times where the authorities took them away. Now I'm going to go through the various threads to find out if there are any ways of extending the life of a bottle of poppers other than the refrigerator thing, which doesn't seem to help. Oh yeah, I am sorry to hear of the serious damage some people have suffered (didn't mean to downplay it).

endorianforest said on Thu, 10 Sep 2015 at 05:05...

Has anyone had an outbreak of cherry angiomas following these visual problems?

Please check your torso, especially your chest and arms. It would be a great help in my investigations.

Thanks!

Tommy said on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 at 21:39...

I had this for ages (over 12 months) then it seemed to clear up to barely noticeable unless I concentrated. This happened after I stopped checking to see if I could see it every half hour.

I suspect part of the problem is I was training my brain to see the spot.
Try forgetting about it and see if it improves.

james said on Fri, 13 Nov 2015 at 07:45...

Brilliant thread! In a time where this is still so new its amazing to find so much combined info...
Happened to me a year and a half ago, no spots in my vision but a massive loss of focus, i couldn't even see the phone screen in my hand or barley the phone, number plates were impossible and peoples faces also unrecognisable...
Just woke up in the morning like it after a beer and poppers binge, been using poppers for 20 years odd and never a problem.... NEVER AGAIN
Sex or wanking pales into insignificance compared to vision... and yes i miss it but its all about re training your brain to enjoy sex and masturbation without it..
As for my eyes, well one eye as the other one is lazy so never worked any good i went immediately to the doctors and optition for a check up and told them both i'd been using poppers and they both just looked at me daft and said they doubt there is a link even after i said i'd found a link on the internet..
I ate as much betaceratine as possible for about 6 weeks after, my diet is quite healthy anyway and slowly my vision came back, not 100% but 90% i'd say, its still a struggle to read any small print and i notice its intermittent, sometimes i struggle with phone text and sometimes its ok.
Maybe it is linked to stress like someone posted earlier but i do defiantly think that the key to recovery is OBVIOUSLY stop poppers, never again and diet and eye vitamins (Lutein , Zeaxantin) like mentioned above.

Tim said on Wed, 2 Dec 2015 at 03:25...

Hello,
I used to take poppers super rush and I got a really bad inflammation of my head and I lost my hair.
I hope I leave my finger from this stuff and also it makes lazy

Sean said on Mon, 7 Dec 2015 at 19:49...

I get dry skin under my nose and on my face from using poppers plus asthma don't seem to want to go away

Idiot said on Tue, 5 Jan 2016 at 20:00...

I had a popper binge on Sunday night.. Rarely ever use them but thought it would be fun ..lots of alcohol and 5 hours later of sniffing I have blurred spot in my central vision and it's now Tuesday and it hasn't moved!..I'm really stressing thinking I'm gonna be stuck this way forever..I've only done poppers 2/3 times in my life and I will never do them again! How long does this last does it go..please say it goes!! Help!!

Panic said on Sat, 16 Jan 2016 at 10:31...

Binge user here, 6 months, everyday, used during wanking - Liquid Gold & Platinum. My vision is fine, I did get green tinge to vision when using heavily but it would fade and return to normal within 4 hours, I also sometimes got blue/grey fingers/feet and fingernails which would last for up to 36 hours. Stopped using 10 days ago and am getting strong panic attacks, anxiety, dry mouth, nerve tingling in forearms and shins, sweating, chills etc. Anyone else have this happen after stopping? Psychological addiction perhaps? Am I going through withdrawal or cold turkey or something? Feels like cocaine withdrawal/anxiety, thanks for your thoughts.

Lsangel said on Wed, 27 Jan 2016 at 10:55...

I am really scared... I had used poppers for 4 years... And now i don't know if this damage to my eye will go away... I see a fuzzy line temporarily but it is frequent. It just started today and it hasn't gone away... I am worried... I hope if I remain abstinent from the poppers and use vitamins and work out... It may go away... Please guys help... I am really scared...

Backtonormal said on Sun, 7 Feb 2016 at 11:57...

Having used many times before no problem, Novemeber 2015 I used a Rush bottle from a newsagent about 6/7 times over an evening, resulting in really awful vision. I was terrified - I couldn't recongise faces unless I was about a foot away, couldn't read off screens at all, and any bright lights were so vibrant and felt almost toxic to look at. Anything red was now a bright orange.

I was sure it was permanent as there was no improvement. I was constantly looking about trying to figure out if it was getting better...every morning waking up wishing it was gone.

Now about three months later with abstinence, my eye sight it 99% better. The only issue I have now it looking at the sky and blinking rapidly there's is a small faint dot in the centre of my vision - a reminder of not to get myself in the same situation!

Just relax if it happens, abstain from use and it will get better.

Rob said on Fri, 12 Feb 2016 at 05:31...

I have been having acutely worsening night vision. and the central vision continues to get worse even after six weeks of abstinence. When I drive at night, it is almost pitch black with car lights appearing like dots. I can't judge their distance. It is like seeing lights in the sky and you know there is a plane flying but can't tell how far away it is. Daytime vision looks very faded. Reds look maroon. Have any of you guys experienced this? How long does it take to recover?

b dude said on Sat, 20 Feb 2016 at 10:15...

As backtonormal said. Relax, abstain. It gets better. I've had it 3x real bad. Along with a few minor setbacks in between. But every time it slowly improves. Im about 95% better. And i had it BAD. real bad one time. Like worse case bad. Could barely drive a car. Scary shit. Read my other posts on proper nutrition. IT WILL HEAL. If you let it. After at least 3 to 4 monthes of abstinence along with NOTABLE improvement, if you feel compelled to do poppers, USPOPSHOP.COM has good stuff that wont damage eyes. I prefer the industrial strenth. Good buzz, and Im continuing to improve. But if damage is fresh, only abstinence will allow healing. Trust me I know. No dabbling until notable healing has occurred. Then try uspopshop.com. .....not the strongest, but easy on eyes. Worth it.

Chris said on Thu, 10 Mar 2016 at 15:35...

I've only recently started using poppers, but right away I noticed a green spot in the centre of my vision as if I'd been looking at a bright light. It went away fairly quickly after I stopped using poppers and I didn't bother much about it, but last night I had quite an intense and prolonged session using it. After I noticed the green spot in my vision wasn't going away and it's lasted most of today. Now it is gradually fading away, but this has really frightened me. Especially when I went on line and found quite a few reports from people who had damaged their vision through using poppers. I've really enjoyed using poppers. They really do intensify sex either with a partner or just having a bit of fun alone, and I've just ordered a new batch a couple of days ago, but now I think the best thing I should do is put them straight in the bin when they arrive. I'm so disappointed because poppers really do improve sex, and I was looking forward to experimenting with them, but I can't risk damaging my eyesight permanently. There should be more warnings that if you use poppers there is a risk you could damage your vision. Your eyesight is very precious, and it's not worth the risk.

dave39 said on Fri, 13 May 2016 at 16:49...

I have been binge using poppers recently and noticed that my eyesight was funny after using them....I had dimmed vision and a big black spot in my vision but this went away an hour or so later. However some effects recently started to last until the the next day - i would get blurry vision , and things were not as sharp. Stupidly I kept using them as I think I was kind of addicted to them, psychologically. Finally I got a bright yellow spot in my vision 3 weeks ago that stayed and it really worried me. I stopped right away and have been taking lutein supplements and a multivitamin. Me eyesight is now back to normal except for the yellow spot , however this seems to be fading. I will post an update with my progress but I am not touching poppers again. As I say, the yellow spot is fading but it is taking a while. I dont know if the lutein works but I saw on one journal that a guy whose eyes got better used it.

spacebar said on Wed, 15 Jun 2016 at 00:08...

Hi all,

I had a case of poppers maculopathy after a single use, one of my first times using poppers.

Bright spot in the middle of my vision, which thank god faded after about 15min. For a couple of weeks after that, sensitivity to light and slightly blurry vision. I think I have made a full recovery now, about a month and a half later -- but It was a terribly scary experience! I took Lutein and Bilberry supplements at the beginning, which might have helped.

Having read other case reports, it does tend to fade and get better if you stop inhaling them so there is hope out there for the afflicted... Just stop using them! They might seem harmless but are not safe at all.

Stay safe!

dave39 said on Sat, 2 Jul 2016 at 10:46...

this is an update to my previous post on 13th may....... my eyesight has pretty much returned to normal, however i still have the yellow dot in one eye however it is quite faint and i can only see it in certain light and i don't even notice it about 95% of the time. i am still taking lutein and am hoping that after 3-6 months my eyes will have improveds further. it was pretty scary and i hope that i am not tempted to ever use them again. i have to say that once uou quit using poppers masturbating and sex become just as good after a few weeks...you just have to completely stop using them and the craving for them goes away

dave39 said on Tue, 2 Aug 2016 at 13:14...

another update - luckily my eyes seem to have got completely back to normal - no white spots or difficulty with my vision at all. I'm still taking lutein and have another couple of months supply so will keep taking them and then stop and see how i go.

Anomymous2 said on Thu, 4 Aug 2016 at 18:43...

I've been using poppers about four or five month and a few days ago I noticed that i see a white spot where the eyes focus . Reading other comments I realized that this will get worse , so I'll leave poppers . The question I have is that the little white dot I see in the middle of my vision will heal or no, I'm pretty scared about this...

Thanks Dave for the information, today its my last day of poppers and i hope my eyes back to normal.

anonymous said on Sat, 6 Aug 2016 at 10:38...

I have been using different brands for about 1 year.
Now I am having chesty cough after a heavy session.

I am pretty sure it is caused by poppers because my nose is burnt.

I throw all my poppers away and decided to quit.

JayHeavyPopperUser said on Fri, 30 Sep 2016 at 04:34...

I sniffed poppers straight for 20 and my colon came out of my anus!!! I had to call an ambulance and at the ER they pushed it back in. When I walk it still comes out a bit so I have to wear diapers! Anyone else has experienced this damage?

D370 said on Fri, 28 Oct 2016 at 18:08...

I have used poppers quite a lot over the last three or four years. Late 2015 i noticed the blurring of central vision and the bright and dark spots if i look at light surfaces or the sky... a kind of sun blindness. My optitian referred me to an eye specialist as he said i have some discolouration of my retina. The specialist did some kind of scan and there was an indentation in my retina where the central vision comes from. His first question to me was do you do poppers. When i said yes he said, 'we have a diagnosis'. The poppers have damaged my retina. He said i was lucky as it is only one eye as it usually damages both eyes. He said the damage may go away if i stop using poppers. It means i struggle to read small text and recognise faces at a distance with my right eye. Not good. Spread the word... really i guess it is time that they were banned if this is the damage they do.

Wish I knew said on Mon, 21 Nov 2016 at 21:36...

Used to use poppers from 99-07, stopped when they changed the law as they didn't work for me after the change. Recently decided to give them a try again for some stupid reason, had a couple of quite enjoyable sessions but started developing probems with my previously 20/20 eyesight. All the same symptoms as described above, blurry central vision / blind spot like after looking at the sun. Went to the eye hospital who couldnt see any problem. Only reading this thread and seeing all the same stories has helped me put two and two together. Will stop and try the vitamins. Hope it isnt permanent! :/

sam said on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 at 07:08...

I used overdose of yellow popper rush, two bottles in a single time. And now i m having vision issues like not able to see ppl face, difficulty in reading, light sensitivity . Doctors diagnosed it as maculopathy. Its been a week I am suffering from this problem and issue is with both eyes. I am shit scared now , my vision is gone. Doctors siad there is hardly any treatment available. Please help if someone can guide if any one got recovered from this issue and any treatment which can help. Can steroids suggested by doctor help?

dave39 said on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 at 22:12...

Hi sam...please see my posts above. You might be ok, try not to panic. I thought I had completely messed up my eyesight for good, could hardly read my computer, it was completely messed up and I had permanent spots in my vision. I was pretty stressed out by it I tell you. I stopped using poppers completely and took lutein vitamins for a while (at least four months - they are not expensive to buy online). My eyes are completely normal again, no issues at all. I have no idea whether the lutein helped or not, all I know is that by stopping and using lutein I seem ok. Hope you're eyes get better x

Joshb7 said on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 at 23:51...

Dave39 did you suffer from really blurred vision alongside the yellow spot? I'm really having trouble focusing on things and am hoping this isn't irreversible also.

I have the yellow spot too, but not being able to focus properly is scaring me.

Sam said on Wed, 30 Nov 2016 at 00:51...

Hi Dave39,
Thanks a ton for responding and cheering me up. I am conpletely shattered by this and hate myself for using poppers. This has conpletey spoiled my vision. Last one week has been hell and not sure how many more weeks I have to suffer. How many months it took it for you to return to normal vision? Other than Lutein were you taking anything? Is there any treatment available. My doctor said he cannot do anything.

dave39 said on Wed, 30 Nov 2016 at 11:53...

Joshb7 - yep my vision was blurry. To be frank it was f****d for weeks. When I would leave for work in the morning the street lights would be really bright and I would have trouble focusing, seeing things clearly and crossing busy roads. I also had trouble reading my computer. I also had a yellow spot (lasted for ages) in the centre of my vision that eventually went away.

Sam - I just took lutein and I also take a multivitamin most days. I can't say whether either supplement helped I just thought I better try something and to be honest I felt quite desperate. Hope your eyes get better x

dave39 said on Wed, 30 Nov 2016 at 11:56...

sam - for got to say, it took about four months for my eyes to get better

Joshb7 said on Wed, 30 Nov 2016 at 22:21...

Thank you for sharing dave39, you've given me hope, I've been feeling bleak and hating myself. At the same time I feel there is not enough awareness about poppers, I thought they were one of the more harmless highs out there, and here I am fearful of going blind, affecting my life, and my job (I work in the arts so am shattered right now).

I think it's important we should all report our condition so that action is taken against poppers; for the die hard fans out there who will protest this, at the very least banning this new toxic formulation, and educationg people properly. Personally I will never touch them again and spread word so nobody else finds themselves in this position.

It's only been a few days but I am taking Lutein and berry supplements and sleeping a lot. Hopefully this helps me to recover. I'm getting eye aches and head aches though so will see a specialist. I will update my progress for other out there too.

Sam said on Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 00:57...

Hi Joshb7 , we are in same boat. Completely fucked up. my work also deals with computer job and hence it is affecting my job. I have no clue when it will heal or will it heal at all as I am reading mixed feedback. There is some issue with Yellow Rush as I never had any issue with any other popper bottel in past. This was first time I tried this one. I still regret why i did that, i fucked my life myself.

Sam said on Wed, 14 Dec 2016 at 14:47...

Hi Dave39,
Seems you were right.Its been a month now. I am seeing improvement now. The yellow spot is gone but I still cannot focus on thing clearly and cannot see people faces clearly. Much better. Thanks for your tips. I owe you man !!!!

Ace said on Sat, 24 Dec 2016 at 21:06...

I can't feel Notting when I take poppers
Is it because I'm having too much? What do I need to do to get my feeling back

nopoppers said on Sun, 8 Jan 2017 at 11:29...

Hey guys,

I like most of the people here been overusing poppers! also like everyone here i would say it is stupid ! I also have eye problems in my left eye and been having blue lips and fingernails after using poppers! but now my main concern is my heart! been having increased heart beats even when I am laying down. Does anyone have more details on the damage to the heart!

D Andrews said on Sat, 14 Jan 2017 at 12:59...

AQUA - I am having similar symptoms to yours, really worrying!!

Have you recovered from this ?

Eyes, heart, memory loss, cloudy brain, hand tremors, hearing loss

Help.

Mr firsttime said on Sun, 29 Jan 2017 at 17:22...

Hey guys, I recently tried poppers on a night out 1 day ago, only inhaled a couple of times and tbh I didn't really feel much. After reading about "Popper Maculopathy" I am now really worried that I have somehow fucked up my eyesight and I will be worrying for weeks! I can't report any visual abnormalities at the moment, but does anyone know how long after inhaling it usually takes for symptoms to appear? Cheers guys

D Andrews said on Mon, 30 Jan 2017 at 11:39...

It's instant after sniffing Mr First time.

I keep checking back here everyday to see if AQUA has replied, still have all these terrible effects.

Sam said on Thu, 23 Feb 2017 at 16:16...

Thank god i have got my eye sight back. I have normal vision now. Please stop using poppers.

New User said on Fri, 24 Feb 2017 at 06:34...

I ran across a recent study that suggested lutein supplements may help improve vision damaged by poppers use. The sample was extremely small (I think only 7 participants). One of the 7 was taking lutein supplements & that patient saw an actual improvement & reversal of vision loss. But the improvement was NOT a complete restoration of vision to the level it was before poppers use....

Tl,dr: lutein supplements + no more poppers....
Good luck

D Andrew said on Sun, 26 Feb 2017 at 12:10...

Sam, how long did your recovery take & did you take supplements etc?

Does anyone else have a large blind spot in their peripheral vision from using poppers ? I read a lot about central vision loss, granted mine isn't as sharp since using poppers, but this is not my area of actual vision loss.

I have a complete area in both eyes which is a blind spot, lights or objects can pass this spot in my field of view & disappear then reappear once passed a certain point. Any info would be much appreciated

Optometrist said on Thu, 9 Mar 2017 at 01:01...

So poppers....
As an optometrist I was unaware of poppers maculopathy until having some symptoms yesterday having used them for years. Having done some investigative work having had "yellowing" of my vision I discovered that my SpO2 (blood oxygen saturation level) stayed incredibly low <90% for about an hour after. This could cause death of retinal nerve fibres, it is interesting that they have found it specifically causes macula changes, particularly as it seems to happen so quickly. There seems to be no real information about this, so I will be carrying out some research. Luckily I have access to OCT machinery to carry out scans. We can also look at macular pigment. The supplements such as Lutein increase the macula pigment and help to protect the macula from blue light thereby protecting from oxidative damage from light, so it is interesting that some people have found this helps, as it is generally considered a protective thing rather than a reparative thing. I will update you all on the outcome. It would be really interesting to do a study

TP said on Thu, 16 Mar 2017 at 06:14...

First I got a tumor in 2001 behind an eye from swollen vessels from poppers detected from double vision. Still a heavy user I got severe pnuemonia and 104 degrees fever in 2010 with some stronger stuff. My bf got brain damage turning stupid. Every time I quit for a year I hit them heavily again. Vision lungs heart and brain are just a few victims. You turn hypochondriac cuz you feel that it's bad. The sexual high is intense but I remind myself that afterwards I will regret the damage and punish myself. I'm off now. May it last long.

BH John said on Thu, 16 Mar 2017 at 09:11...

Hi TP

I've been reading several forums on this subject and you seem to have won the big prize... Why are you so certain that your ills stem from poppers use?

BH John said on Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 07:00...

Is this thread dead?

BH John said on Thu, 6 Apr 2017 at 07:17...

I would really like to know from the people who have posted several times how they are doing now. The vision problems seem to wither after a few months. But are they completely gone, Joshb7, D Andrews, John ?

D Andrews said on Thu, 6 Apr 2017 at 16:22...

Update:

Since stopping poppers from the 9th of January I have taken luteine, bilberry and other macular tablets, however my symptoms are still the same.

Floaters in my vision, peripheral blurriness accompanied by blind spot in both eyes, sensitive to lights both outdoor & indoor.

I am extremely upset, I have visited A&E eye doctors 3 times over the past 6 months but none have found any problems with my vision. I assume when you guys visited eye doctors they found problems?

I am left worrying that I have damaged my brain in some way. Potentially ruined my health in my 20's and will be stuck like this for the rest of my life !

BH John said on Thu, 13 Apr 2017 at 06:42...

D Andrews

What do you mean with "blind spot" in both eyes? If you close one eye, there is a black spot in your vision?

D Andrew said on Thu, 13 Apr 2017 at 17:41...

Hi BH John,

Yes, if I close one eye I have a total blind spot in the open eye. Same place with both eyes.

Poppersdummy said on Sat, 15 Apr 2017 at 17:03...

On the bottle there is a warning not to inhale. Maybe we should heed the warning. NO MORE POPPERS for me. Coughing, teeth problems due to sinus issues, diminished vision, concentration issues. After five years with this crap, I am done.

BH John said on Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 08:04...

Poppersdummy: Teeth problems?

Bayboy said on Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 20:10...

Ive been using poppers 1-2 times a day for 4-5 months and have developed a chronic cough. All my tests at the doctors - X-ray etc are normal and not better with antibiotics or steroid tablets. If it's due to the popper use and I stop - how long does it take to get better? anybody know?

Motorhead Sherwood said on Wed, 26 Apr 2017 at 06:45...

it took me about three months

Liz said on Fri, 5 May 2017 at 09:01...

There was one strain of marijuana I dont remember which but it seems like it helped my eyes. I feel that certain strains of marijuana might help in repairing any problems caused by poppers. Just my opinion. i'm not a doctor or in the medical field but once I felt that after smoking marijuana i felt that my eyes got alot better and that I could see alot better. For those that use poppers perhaps taking Lutrin an hour before you use poppers and smoking the right strain of marijuana might perhaps lessen the damage from poppers. ???

redhead said on Sat, 20 May 2017 at 13:24...

Tryed some and to be honest gave me like a bad chest, proper flemmy..

redhead said on Sat, 20 May 2017 at 13:25...

Tryed some and to be honest gave me like a bad chest, proper flemmy..

redhead said on Sat, 20 May 2017 at 13:33...

Hi bayboy..
To be honest I dont think your cough will Total disapear over a short period of time.. my fella has same thing hes coughing up daily for years. An doctor say everything normal..

BH John said on Fri, 9 Jun 2017 at 06:47...

Any updates on your situation, guys?

D Andrews said on Sun, 11 Jun 2017 at 17:57...

Hi,

Not much to report unfortunately.

Still experiencing blind spots in both eyes, floaters still giving me grief especially with the recent nice weather bright days we have had here in the UK.

Experiencing great difficulty when having to look at reflecting objects like traffic signs/fluorescent lights as it seems to blurr into one and highlight my floaters more.

Maybe I'm like this for good!! Hope you guys are having more luck ?

Paul Scott said on Wed, 12 Jul 2017 at 22:15...

I am amazed. I have used poppers on and off over the years, sometimes heavily. Over the past 4 years I have noticed my eyes becoming really poor, it feels like I am rapidly going blind.
Also, using poppers has made me go blue, in my finger nails it is especially noticeable.
I always believed poppers to be fairly harmless, we really need to get this message out there to other men, that wanking won't make you go blind, but using poppers will very likely give you the eyes of an 80 year old man.
Good luck to all you guys out there and I will report back in a few months if abstinence will induce any improvement in my sight.
Take care.

Luke said on Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 21:17...

Join the club Paul Scott.Been using poppers about 5 years on and off and not excessively and have the same eye problem.After reading this site it has made me think.Last used poppers Amsterdam gold on 18th July 2017 and have the same problem as described on this site with central vision...wont be ever touching isopropyl ever again.Eyes seem to be recovering slightly.Flash in sky when blinking rapidly...Had perfect vision up to July 2012 when i started to use contact lenses..one day i looked at computer screen and couldnt read it? didnt think poppers was the problem...looked at bank statement and noticed i had bought poppers on 5 occasions in April May and June 2012 hence poppers must have contributed to it i thinks.

Luke said on Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 20:48...

Last post meant to say last used on 18th June 2017 and not used since.

PaddyGoo said on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 11:41...

Was reading Andy from Leicester's lengthy post, then I got to, "You see this is the reason why poppers have been banned in the UK, and why the Queen has suddenly banned all "Legal High's""................. The Queen banned legal highs? The Queen? really?........... Stupid boy Pike.

Anonymous said on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 11:46...

From Poppersdummy post, quote, "On the bottle there is a warning not to inhale. Maybe we should heed the warning." - It seems to me from some of these posts that the biggest problem with poppers for some people is mental retardation. Don't inhale poppers? So what do you suggest? Stick them up your arse? I know - perhaps they should put that warning on cigarettes to!

Porrohman said on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 11:49...

Been using Poppers a couple of times a month for 30 years, so original recipe and new recipe, absolutely no problems with eyesight or health.

TheKnightWhoSaysNi said on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 11:53...

Having scanned the posts. it seems there are far to many self obsessed hypochondriac drama queens wanting attention. Jesus, get a grip.

TheKnightWhoSaysNi said on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 11:59...

"It's only been a few days but I am taking Lutein and berry supplements and sleeping a lot. Hopefully this helps me to recover. I'm getting eye aches and head aches though so will see a specialist. I will update my progress for other out there too." - Berry supplements hahahaha, why not rub your eyes witha dock leaf too?? - another me, me, me post, another hypochondriac drama queen.

Khan said on Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 20:27...

After reading all the threads, I have thrown all my poppers bottle ! Hoping my anxiety will go away !
Am suffering from severe anxiety and stressed out, now quiting poppers and smoking !
After having poppers I was having panic attacks and anxiety but that I copped with taking xanax, now hoping that I have quit for good I'll get better and will train my brain that nothing is wrong with me !
Has anyone recovered from anxiety ? Plz need help

Equus said on Mon, 7 Aug 2017 at 12:36...

To TheKnightWhoSaysNi: it may be reinforced by hypochondria, but still the sometime irreversible damage to your eyes is observable by specialists (see the medicinal reports mentioned above), there is some objective damage here, as well as for the lung issues.

I'll share my story as it could maybe help someone:

I have only used poppers since a few weeks, 1st time Sunday all great, 2nd time Monday all great, 3rd time Tuesday all great, 4th time Wednesday: couldn't breathe, like a really really strong cold, or asthma (I have no asthma otherwise, so I can't tell, but it must feel similar, your lung capacity is down at 10-20%...took like 4 days to fully recover).

Then the next week same procedure, except one day shorter, because the coughing and phlegm was way worse than the week before.

Next week, same procedure, one more day shorter (Only Sunday and Monday) to prevent the coughing and flegm. No issues except the tiredness.

I thought "Cool, I have found a viable trade-off"! Thus same procedure this Sunday, this time with a new brand (I only took Amsterdam in the past, tried Jungle Juice Platinum this time). I took 3 hits in one session, so not too much. Still I quickly noticed a yellow spot in the center of my vision, which took like 30mins to go away. Breathed immediately a lot of fresh air, got to bed early, in the morning it was gone. I couldn't help but to do another quick session in the morning, one single hit, the yellow sport reappeared again directly. Took longer to disappear, now it is gone (so several hours).

I consider myself as very lucky.

This could be because of Jungle Juice, or it could be because I am just on the threshold of damaging my eyes permanently. When some people tell that their eyesight got better after 4 months, that's like the minimum interval to use poppers, like 3 times per year. Considering the relapse risk, better not do those few times neither... Because it seems that one single use on a tired body or one single use of the false brand or one single heavy use and you have crossed the line, no going back!

This shit is the BREATH OF THE DEVIL.

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