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Topic created by Hamps Harry
on Thu, 27 Sep 2012 at 18:45

Hamps Harry said on Thu, 27 Sep 2012 at 18:45...

What is your view of this? I assume positive, unless you are living in a 1890s mind-set! Cool, now what about marriage for such couples? What about bringing up children in such a relationship? Everything still OK? No nagging doubts about this being a dangerous experiment tinkering with the very foundations of society? Just askin'...

Phil Dawson said on Fri, 28 Sep 2012 at 08:10...

Provocative! Designed to provoke a reaction? reminds me of a creature that lives under a bridge :-(

Delvin said on Tue, 2 Oct 2012 at 13:14...

A troll you mean? haha. Well take a look at Elton John and his spouse and then tell me that is a good role model. I mean it, I am not trying to wind you up.

Roy of The Ravers said on Wed, 3 Oct 2012 at 08:50...

What does Elton John's personal demeanor have to to with the union itself? Nothing at all. You are confusing distaste for a bloated old man in a wig and sequins with the issue of marriage. If society is to move away from prejudice and discrimination (it will not happen overnight) then we need to embrace and celebrate enthusiastically this form of union. Civil partnerships seems to be a halfway house, a compromise even. The problem lies with religion and that statement can be applied to many of the world's ills.

Dagmar said on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 at 18:53...

Religion is one thing that may have been the genesis of these societal structures, but the structure itself (the family) serves society well enough. The post seems to suggest that "mucking around" with these structures through a beneficent liberal mindset may have a radical (and unpredictable) effect. What? Oh and I like poppers ;-)

HiBoston (sling) said on Tue, 9 Oct 2012 at 02:14...

WOW! what is this about? what is the problem with bringing up offspring in such a partnership anyway?

luvdude said on Tue, 9 Oct 2012 at 16:44...

Life and let live is my maxim, try it guys!

Corporal Hardware said on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 at 10:13...

Captain Rush and Colonel Ram get married, the groom wears red and yellow and the bride wears green. Big deal.

Charles T said on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 at 11:55...

You can't make a great omelet without breaking eggs. The eggs here are the fragile shells of bigotry; a bigotry that is ingrained into modern society by virtue of a shared religious heritage. This varies in form from neurotic Christian fundamentalists to tea sipping "forgiving" liberals (oh and let us not forget about those other pesky prophets either!) Cleaning away that ignorance will take time, but will result in a fair and just society based upon rational ideas, as opposed to the "Chinese whisper" texts upon which current hatred is based. Remember God is love, that is all.

Papa_Pop said on Wed, 17 Oct 2012 at 14:57...

I have an opinion, but unfortunately I'm washing my hair tonight (so you'll have to go without) Jeez!

Anonymous said on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 at 07:52...

What was the view of these unions in the Ancient World, before diminutive humanoids started revising the Word of God to suit their own political ends, prejudices, or lunacy. See Constantius II's Theodosian Code (342 AD) - a Christian prohibits men only marriage plus those that were already wed were to be executed. Maybe their are some ring kissing genuflecting self-severs who wish they had they same authority?

Cardinal Keith O' Brien and Archbishop Philip Tartaglia are contestants in Stonewall's Bigot of The Year award. The language of the religious right is spinning to claim the "victim" status for themselves, oh the irony!

"In a society which claims to value equality and diversity should we be attacking and demeaning those who don’t share our views?"

Chan said on Sat, 10 Nov 2012 at 11:23...

In some old countries (no christian) it happens before

The Boss said on Mon, 7 Jan 2013 at 12:48...

What is the Buddhist view of all of this? I have heard a lot of conflicting reports on that topic.

Hayle Stone said on Wed, 6 Feb 2013 at 15:13...

Marriage for couples is now legal in the UK. I heartily disapprove.

>"diminutive humanoids"

What are you then, matey? Some kind of Ubermensch?? Given your anticlerical rantings perhaps rabid looney is a better description.

BootGod said on Thu, 7 Feb 2013 at 11:47...

Oh! Have fun getting angry guys....whatever! Where you from, Hayle? Tulsa...

Hayle Stone said on Wed, 13 Feb 2013 at 19:01...

Why? Does your cane need polishing....

Polly said on Wed, 20 Feb 2013 at 10:48...

Nevermind, we'll soon have a lovely new Pope like the ultra-liberal high camp Cardinal Peter Turkson, NOT. He speaks of "African traditional systems" with some pride. Those lovely warm fuzzy inclusive systems that means that Africa is a veritable Eden.

It's time for Africa...

Anonymous said on Sun, 24 Feb 2013 at 08:21...

Hooray for the Catholics! Bring back the Magdalene Laundry!

Here are a couple of lines about Cardinal Keith O"Brien from today's Observer

"O'Brien, who is due to retire next month, has been an outspoken opponent of gay rights, condemning homosexuality as immoral, opposing gay adoption, and most recently arguing that same-sex marriages would be "harmful to the physical, mental and spiritual well-being of those involved".

"he describes as unwanted behaviour by the cardinal after a late-night drinking session."

Oct 24th

Anonymous said on Sun, 24 Feb 2013 at 08:22...

Feb 24th...not October! Duh!

BobCat said on Mon, 25 Feb 2013 at 11:37...

errare humanum est?inebrians...

PuzzleMaster said on Tue, 26 Feb 2013 at 17:08...

Interesting:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

dissembler - pharisee -

"expresses zeal for those virtues which he neglects to practice; since he may be sincerely convinced of the advantages of conquering his passions, without having yet obtained the victory, as a man may be confident of the advantages of a voyage, or a journey, without having courage or industry to undertake it, and may honestly recommend to others, those attempts which he neglects himself"

Anonymous said on Sun, 3 Mar 2013 at 18:29...

To err is human, dickhead.

PuzzleMaster said on Tue, 5 Mar 2013 at 22:23...

Get thee to a nunnery!...Hamlet Act 3, scene 1, or in his case "get mineself to a monastery"

Anonymous said on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 at 16:24...

Nunnery was slang for brothel. When seeking to impress others with your erudition it is wise to know what you are talking about. Do you wear a tight nylon jumpsuit with a big question mark on it? Do you think a man in a black cape is after you? Seek professional help.

PuzzleMaster said on Sun, 17 Mar 2013 at 16:46...

That was The Riddler. Aside from that I am not going to get drawn into a pointless row with a nasty little git like you.

Polly said on Mon, 18 Mar 2013 at 18:05...

The new Pope is bound to me more liberal! After all he comes from Argentina which is a hot bed of tolerance, understanding, and sensible moderation. Gaudete!

PJ said on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 at 09:28...

Pope Francis supports the Vatican’s charming positions on abortion, women priests, same gender marriages, gay couples adopting etcetera

Argentina has legalized marriage and adoption though, so I am not sure what you mean, Polly. Papa Franky called it at the time “a war against God” and “a maneuver by the devil.” No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

PuzzleMaster said on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 at 13:26...

Who said this:

"When they....force priests at gunpoint to marry gays, it will be the downfall of civilisation, and Jesus will come back,"

1. Ernst Rohm
2. Caligula
3. Michelle Shocked

PJ said on Wed, 20 Mar 2013 at 12:42...

None of the above, it was Larry Grayson.

Anonymous said on Sun, 24 Mar 2013 at 16:01...

Ernst Rohm of the SA was a guy that got shot up by Hitler! it was 3 Michelle as she is nutz.

PJ said on Wed, 27 Mar 2013 at 09:20...

He liked lads in brown smocks, didn't he? Rohm probably got "wasted" because of Himmler's lust for power (and poultry) Not attractive characters at all. Caligula was also a piece of work and that's a fact. Who is this silly woman Michelle Shocked - what a pretentious and silly name!

equestrian mistress said on Fri, 5 Apr 2013 at 09:55...

Talking of silly and pretentious....get a load of Jeremy Irons!

“I worry that it means somehow we debase, or change, what marriage is,” he said. “I just worry about that.”

“Could a father, not marry his son?”

lol

Toxic Tina said on Wed, 24 Apr 2013 at 21:25...

or please watch me in The Borgias....the French just said oui, right?

iPop said on Sun, 28 Apr 2013 at 07:59...

I always have it in my mind that he is Charles Ryder....that summer with Sebastian....One guy that really surprised me from that era is Rupert Everret. He hangs around with Madonna and pouts a lot....male version of Mrs Beckham is what I thought. That was until I read his book, Red Carpets and Other Banana Skins. Witty, erudite, a fine fella...just goes to show you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.

PuzzleMaster said on Sun, 5 May 2013 at 07:55...

Who said:

"Keynes was a homosexual and had no intention of having children. We are not dead in the long run … our children are our progeny. It is the economic ideals of Keynes that have gotten us into the problems of today,"

1. Sir Peregrine Worsthorne
2. Niall Ferguson
3. Robert Mugabe

GRAND COQ said on Wed, 15 May 2013 at 08:51...

Peregrine Worsthorne got upset about some book? but I think it was Mugabe, as he is an expert economist. What's the prize a luxury trip to Harare?

PuzzleMaster said on Tue, 21 May 2013 at 08:01...

Which book though! Anyway is that you final answer? The prize is knowing that you are better than the flotsam and jetsam of humanity, like this lovely man:

Who said:

"entitled to better than being escorted to his grave with that monotonous, hypocritical aria of deprivation's lament"

"they are inscribing Chinua's epitaph in the negative mode of thwarted expectations"

Do YOU know the answer!

1. Convoluted Chris, the pub bore
2. Some Nigerian guy with a big mouth
3. Officer Dogberry
4. Madame Mal à Propos

PJ said on Tue, 21 May 2013 at 10:42...

Ha! Never mind non anglo-centric literary egomaniacs! He's got a big gob and a bigger ego...look at me! look at me! don't look at that geezer what kicked the bucket! Ugly.

Here's a laugh though:

"When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"

Good point! I am interested in marrying myself. If they say I can't I'll launch an action for Narcissusphobia.

Anonymous said on Thu, 23 May 2013 at 11:16...

a real pity that he comes out with such a smart-arsed pack of bollox. his tribute to Baroness T made me warm to the old gent. he said something else, right? equally inane i recall.

Solomon said on Sat, 25 May 2013 at 18:52...

> got upset about some book?

The book that "upset" includes "one scene in which a group of overweight gay men meet, as they regularly do, to have sex with each other"

He asked a question (do not know if he was upset) about the effect of such prose. Niall Ferguson is a cocky dickhead, Worthsthorne is not.

See King of the Badgers, Hensher P.

Mr Snodgrass said on Tue, 28 May 2013 at 07:49...

Sebastian and I were discussing the conundrum and we believe it may be the Nigerian gentleman with the big "gob" whatever that may be pray. As I said to the Marquess of Marchmain, thwarted expectations are the very essence of human existence. Lady Julia may have an opinion, but it matters not.

Soulsearcher said on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 at 13:25...

Wole Soyinka aka Mr Purple Prose. Get this my dears:

"Where I heard the news? I was on the road between Abeokuta and Lagos. Who called first – BBC or a Nigerian journalist? Can’t recall now, since other calls followed fast and furious, while I was still trying to digest the news. My first reaction? Well, you know the boa constrictor – when it has just swallowed an abnormal morsel, it goes comatose, takes time off to digest. "

Wole (pronounced wally?) is talking about Chinua Achebe's death. It would be very funny (it is very funny I guess) if the pompous old windbag wasn't about to piss his own ego over someone's passing. There's more if you want it...it gets more grandiose and hyper as the paragraphs float by like so many motions is a sewer canal.

PuzzleMaster said on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 at 07:18...

Congratters to all who said Wole. Now, who said:

"Believe it or not, acting was never my career choice. I got into the entertainment game because I was a victim of blacklisting. "

1. Ex National Front member, Ricky Tomlinson.
2. Lovely cardigan and pipe guy, Richard Briers
3. Gourmand and raconteur, Sir Peter Ustinov

Anonymous said on Tue, 18 Jun 2013 at 14:09...

Ricky Tomlinson (the lovely man who until recently used to advertise Farm Foods) became a rabid leftist militant. I say it was him...."entertainment game" is a telling phrase. What does he do apart from play a bolshy git...his range is not that great.

equestrian mistress said on Mon, 24 Jun 2013 at 10:11...

He was in Brookside! One of the greatest soap operas ever (not) Farm Foods is great if you want frozen factory "farm" meat. Mums go to Iceland though...Kerry told me.

Solomon said on Tue, 25 Jun 2013 at 17:40...

Did he really? What was he doing in Iceland? Reykjavik is a funny little place I heard.

Old Bob said on Mon, 19 Aug 2013 at 12:01...

Kerry is a "lady" in the loosest sense. Gregg Wallace is a "gentleman" in that sense too, he is also lots of other things as well.

Mrs B. Dee said on Sat, 23 May 2015 at 14:48...

>>Bring back the Magdalene Laundry!

What have you to say of the laundry! Good clean work for unclean minds, so it was. I recommend Cilice & Flagrum of Dublin for hard to remove stains. My whites have never been whiter. A bar of carbolic soap, my Uncle Dermot's belt, and a pair of hob nail boots. Then we'll see who says they won't be eating my haddock pie of a Friday!

Sir Lee de Meener said on Thu, 9 Jul 2015 at 19:55...

Ricky Tomlinson is a wonderful comedian, I consider him the Bernard Manning of the Far Left. I particularly enjoy his portrayal of Jim Royle, my particular favorite scene is when he is suffering from intestinal gas.

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